Any Kippers here?

[transam]

I think you will find that these directives are difined by a GLOBAL agreement and that irrespective of whether we were in the EU or not, we would still have the same restrictions in place. Maybe more.

no it was an EU directive/ policy

 

[EFLImpudence]

.So highly unlikely that it would be 50%

Agreed, but I was giving an example of the British taxes prior to joining the Common Market.

and we could sell them more British made cars....The advantage to this is that the EU based owners of British car plants would sell more cars and then be inclined to move MORE of their manufacturing out of the EU and into the UK....Which then kick starts British manufacturing.

Why could they not have a similar policy with Japan to save them moving?


Anyway, are you suggesting that all cars in Britain be sold tax-free, or only Japanese ones?

Does that put British companies at a disadvantage and
how does the treasury make up the shortfall in revenue?

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

Agreed, but I was giving an example of the British taxes prior to joining the Common Market.


Why could they not have a similar policy with Japan to save them moving?


Anyway, are you suggesting that all cars in Britain be sold tax-free, or only Japanese ones?

Does that put British companies at a disadvantage and
how does the treasury make up the shortfall in revenue?

Oh we don't want to go back to before we joined the Common Market, times have moved on and we don't need to protect British car manufacturers from Japanese car manufacturers... The shortfall in import duty on Japanese cars could be made up on raising an import duty on EU made cars... Car sales will always have some kind of tax on them.

 

[EFLImpudence]

The shortfall in import duty on Japanese cars could be made up on raising an import duty on EU made cars...

Yes, that makes sense.

 

[Judy in the sky]

Let what go?
Hardly surprising that people are moaning about Brexit.
There is no plan.
The government are in chaos.
The UK will be worse off.

Now come on Nosey, even the EU don't have a "plan" They too are in chaos,,,, and they know for certain that they definitely will be worse off (well at least Germany and France) once the UK isn't pumping money into their coffers every single day.

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

None of us really know if the Government have a plan or not.. Is it possible that they are doing their best to give the impression tht they have no plan in order to throw the EU, who, lets be honest, love plans and have a plan for everything, so it may be best to scupper any EU well thought out plan by frustrating them by pretending that ther is no plan, simply get them flustered and drop the hammer on them..

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

None of us really know if the Government have a plan or not.. Is it possible that they are doing their best to give the impression tht they have no plan in order to throw the EU, who, lets be honest, love plans and have a plan for everything, so it may be best to scupper any EU well thought out plan by frustrating them by pretending that ther is no plan, simply get them flustered and drop the hammer on them..

Sounds like a plan to me..

 

[noseall]

Now come on Nosey, even the EU don't have a "plan"

Do they need one?

and they know for certain that they definitely will be worse off (well at least Germany and France) once the UK isn't pumping money into their coffers every single day.

They will take a hit, of course. I guess it remains to be seen though, just how big a hit the UK can sustain.

 

[noseall]

Sounds like a plan to me..

The good old hammer. Why don't the UK just pull out of the talks immediately? Give 'em that hammer NOW. Why waste time that could be spent negotiating with other countries?

Other countries are as nervous about the UK's cliff edge as everyone else. There will be no trade deals with the UK until they see just how bad a position the EU leave us in.

 

[noseall]

They are not considered a luxury and so, only have the 5% VAT rate.

Are you saying Transam is making stuff up - again?

 

[Brigadier]

Other countries are as nervous about the UK's cliff edge as everyone else. There will be no trade deals with the UK until they see just how bad a position the EU leave us in.

Project Fear II

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Nope, they cannot be sold here... Good old 3 speed pumps do not comply with Directive 2009/125/EC

There are other Grundfoss pumps available:

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• http://uk.grundfos.com/about-us/news-and-press/news/IE5-motors-on-with-Grundfos-Pumps.html

Premium Efficiency – IE3 will become mandatory in Europe

http://w3.siemens.com/mcms/topics/en/application-consulting/ie3ready/ie3-standard/pages/default.aspx

 

[JohnD]

None of us really know if the Government have a plan or not.. Is it possible that they are doing their best to give the impression tht they have no plan in order to throw the EU, who, lets be honest, love plans and have a plan for everything, so it may be best to scupper any EU well thought out plan by frustrating them by pretending that ther is no plan, simply get them flustered and drop the hammer on them..

Consider the alternatives

A disorganised rabble acting like a disorganised rabble

A cunning cabal pretending to be a disorganised rabble

A disorganised rabble pretending to be a cunning cabal pretending to be a disorganised rabble.

The first alternative fits the facts best.

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

Consider the alternatives

A disorganised rabble acting like a disorganised rabble

A cunning cabal pretending to be a disorganised rabble

A disorganised rabble pretending to be a cunning cabal pretending to be a disorganised rabble.

The first alternative fits the facts best.

What facts are these?

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

There are other Grundfoss pumps available:

• http://uk.grundfos.com/about-us/news-and-press/news/IE5-motors-on-with-Grundfos-Pumps.html

http://w3.siemens.com/mcms/topics/en/application-consulting/ie3ready/ie3-standard/pages/default.aspx

But these pumps are unnecessarily expensive and nowhere near as durable... Thus reinforcing the suggestion that the EU is protecting large manufacturers at the cost of the consumer and hiding this behind environmental legislation.... Furthermore, I would challenge you to fit one of the suggested pumps to an ErP combi boiler and make it work... We used to be able to help customers on a Christmas eve evening by fitting whatever we had on the van but these days they would have a cold miserable Christmas...Still why should we care? Gas fitters are cold hearted B'stards and ementalviralists are loving warm fuzzy people who hug polar bears