Are Large, multi-Generational Families More Likely to Spread Coronavirus?

[Ihavenojob]

Within the context of "Are Large, multi-Generational Families More Likely to Spread Corona Virus?" I think Brexit and the import, or export of viruses is irrelevant.

Then why did ellal bring up Brexit ?

2 or 3 times I have posted that, it keeps disappearing

 

[Mottie]

So did my post answering your question but to be fair to the Mods, they removed his post earlier today when he tried to turn the 'Post the best photo you took today' thread into yet another Brexit argument thread.

 

[sxturbo]

So family size is not the cause. It's youthful irresponsibility.

is the case with whats happened in Aberdeen, yes, it would appear Mottie is correct.

on the other hand though, multi-generational families as per bobby's post (i didn't read it all, i done the 1st paragraph and got bored) generally tend to be BAME community, whom amazingly are more likely to get covid,

 

[Brigadier]

generally tend to be BAME community, whom amazingly are more likely to get covid

I don't think that's the case, although I stand to be corrected.
IIRC, we are all as equally likely to get covid, but BAME persons are more likely to become seriously ill with it.

 

[IT Minion]

I don't think that's the case, although I stand to be corrected.
IIRC, we are all as equally likely to get covid, but BAME persons are more likely to become seriously ill with it.

Bit of both, stats show that BAME people are also more likely to get it. No one knows why for sure but leading theory is that they (on average) are doing proportionally more of the jobs that have to be done face to face rather than just logging in from your laptop at home.

 

[^woody^]

They moan that they are more susceptible to the virus and want concessions, but they're bloody spreading it with their antics!

 

[noseall]

They moan that they are more susceptible to the virus and want concessions

That would be the tin foil hatters like ryler and jonny2007 and their refusal to wear face masks - correct?

Except they would in a dusty work place but not when they are told to by the government. Weirdos.

 

[IT Minion]

They moan that they are more susceptible to the virus and want concessions, but they're bloody spreading it with their antics!

Yeah, their own fault for working as Doctors, nurses, railway staff, cleaners, delivery drivers etc. etc. etc.

They got what was coming to them.

 

[^woody^]

Yeah, their own fault for working as Doctors, nurses, railway staff, cleaners, delivery drivers etc. etc. etc.

They got what was coming to them.

Curious how it's only disproportionately affecting BAMEs in the UK, not other countries nor the various originating countries.

 

[^woody^]

That would be the tin foil hatters like ryler and jonny2007 and their refusal to wear face masks - correct?

And every shop worker by the looks of things.

 

[IT Minion]

Curious how it's only disproportionately affecting BAMEs in the UK, not other countries nor the various originating countries.

Except it is, the US has the same issues for one. France seems to have the same.

That you haven't looked for any evidence doesn't mean it isn't there.

 

[Vinty]

My apologies for the length of the post, read it if you want, there's no obligation to read it.

As there's been much speculation in the media, and this forum, about whether large multi-generational families spread a highly contagious infection quicker, easier, more effective than smaller single generational families, I thought I'd explore it a little.
This discussion has nothing to do with any other discussion and is purely hypothetical and academic.

For this hypothetical exploration, let's take two entirely different cultures,ones that don't exist, but it's just to explore the processes. Let's assume that we have identical size of population in both scenarios.
Let's take one that predominantly (as it's hypothetical I'd accept solely) consists of large multi-generational households, and another that is predominantly (again for this hypothetical scenario, I'd accept, solely) consists of single person households.

In the event of a full scale pandemic, and subsequent lockdown, which of the two hypothetical scenarios would be a) more likely to spread the infection, and b) easier for government agencies to control, track and trace?

In the hypothetical scenario of the large multi-generational households, and during lockdown, one member of the family will process all the shopping, and in the event of that person becoming infected, a) only their immediate family will be mostly affected, and b) tracking and tracing their contacts would be simple, fast and effective. It's simply the rest of the family who will be required to isolate.

In the hypothetical scenario of the single person households, all of the people would be required to process the shopping for essential items, etc, unless they can rely on family members and friends. Therefore almost the entire population will be mixing with everyone else. If any of them become infected, tracking and tracing their contacts would be quite an onerous task. It would take time, resources and people, (people who may also be required to work, travel, etc.)

Then there is another issue that perhaps ought to be considered: during such a lockdown, which type of household is likely to suffer any psychological effects?

So, given these two hypothetical scenarios, large multi-generation families are least likely to exacerbate the spread of highly infectious diseases.
Due to the presence of the other family members, large multi-generational families are least likely to suffer psychological problems.

Of course those two hypothetical scenarios don't exist. All cultures consist of a full range of all sorts of households. Also there are other aspects that would interfere with the theory, such as essential work, travel, school, etc.

But I would suggest that large multi-generational families are not, if that is the only aspect to be considered, more likely to speed or extend the spread of highly infectious viruses. Quite the reverse, that type of household is more likely to restrict the speed and spread of contagious diseases and more likely to effect a better degree of control of the virus.
The very fact that the household consists of multiple generations most likely means that the majority of them may never need to go out at all. Therefore the population intermingling is essentially reduced significantly.

Any chance of the abridged version of the above post.

Anyway, Motties theory could be right.

https://www-local10-com.cdn.ampproj...-to-spike-in-coronavirus-cases-officials-say/

 

[noseall]

And every shop worker by the looks of things.

Shop workers are refusing to wer masks?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Any chance of the abridged version of the above post.

Anyway, Motties theory could be right.

https://www-local10-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.local10.com/news/local/2020/07/16/multi-generational-households-contributing-to-spike-in-coronavirus-cases-officials-say/?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA=#aoh=15968394736738&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/07/16/multi-generational-households-contributing-to-spike-in-coronavirus-cases-officials-say/

Thanks for that link, Vinty.
Like sodthisforfun, you must have searched far and wide for any supporting evidence, to substantiate your opinion, and yet found none.
A US Mayor is just as susceptible to preconceived conjecture as an Australian professor, or perhaps even more so.
And those are the only opinions, of any worth, that have been found to substantiate the hypothesis of multi-generational families facilitating the spread of coronavirus, neither of them providing any evidence, logic or rationale for their opinions.
Indeed, other factors can be teased out of their opinions that suggest other factors are responsible, such as irresponsibility, to explain the spread of coronavirus. Additionally, comments within the article suggest that there are other factors that indicate multi-generational families are not responsible for facilitating the spread, such as one person nominated to obtain essential supplies (meaning other family members do not go out), isolation and good hygiene within the house, good hygiene that will continue within the community.

I would respectfully suggest that if you want to posit contrary opinions, you ought to have the wisdom to read the whole of a brief hypothesis.
If it had been a serious piece of academic research, I certainly would have included an abridged conclusion, etc, but that would have made the post phenomenally longer, including terms of reference, methodology, results, etc.

 

[ellal]

And every shop worker by the looks of things.

Rule by decree says they don't have to...

However illogical that is given the apparent threat of the virus!