Atheism is the 'real' enemy of the west?

Atheism is the new Rock 'n' Roll, and everyone claims to be one. In reality, an atheist is someone that doesn't even understand the questions, never mind the answers.

Einstein nailed it:

"Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations."
 
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joe-90 said:
Atheism is the new Rock 'n' Roll, and everyone claims to be one. In reality, an atheist is someone that doesn't even understand the questions, never mind the answers.

Einstein nailed it:

"Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations."
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He chatted some right old **** didn't he.
 
After hundreds of business trips to Africa and the Middle East I've come slowly to the conclusion that religious fatalism is the greatest enemy. It allows people to get away with every crime including mass murder.
 
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Dextraneous said:
Do atheists feel guilt?
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What is there to feel guilt about? There are many atheists who are not anti-religion and if they can't see that then they do not see the reality.

Why do religious people feel they need assurance in life, is it insecurity or the fear of unknown or death. Is it their way of coping with their life?
 
Dextraneous said:
Do atheists feel guilt?
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Probably not yet they have caused more death and destruction in the world than those who hold the faith.
So they should humble themselves and accept blame and stop maligning religion. (They won't)

Atheists hold the most fear and insecurity as is evident from this forum regarding the rise of Islam.
 
Norcon said:
Dextraneous said:
Do atheists feel guilt?
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Probably not yet they have caused more death and destruction in the world than those who hold the faith.
So they should humble themselves and accept blame and stop maligning religion. (They won't)

Atheists hold the most fear and insecurity as is evident from this forum regarding the rise of Islam.
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Just how did I causes any death in this world?

I have no fear or insecurity and if I did I will to church for them to comfort me. You're coming across it's my way or my way
 
neither the first or second world wars were religious wars. They were atheist wars. How many died? 70 odd million?
 
joe-90 said:
neither the first or second world wars were religious wars. They were atheist wars. How many died? 70 odd million?
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What a load of absolute tosh.
They were wars based on politics but the sides involved were religious.
The British Army for the most part was C of E .
Germany was a strong Catholic Country.
You are ignoring regardless of religion Britian and other countries were brought into the war to DEFEND themselves.

70 million people did not have to die at all if they had simply surrendered. Is that what you think should have happened?

However here is a quote from Hitler

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."


Joe 1/2 you are on a losing 'battle' looking for atheist warmongers.
 
itshere said:
joe-90 said:
neither the first or second world wars were religious wars. They were atheist wars. How many died? 70 odd million?
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What a load of absolute tosh.
They were wars based on politics but the sides involved were religious.
The British Army for the most part was C of E .
Germany was a strong Catholic Country.
You are ignoring regardless of religion Britian and other countries were brought into the war to DEFEND themselves.

70 million people did not have to die at all if they had simply surrendered. Is that what you think should have happened?

However here is a quote from Hitler

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."


Joe 1/2 you are on a losing 'battle' looking for atheist warmongers.
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Do some proper research. Through out history atheists have caused the most death and destruction.
I know its a bitter pill to swallow.
It's just in your nature to have more badness in your blood.

Google wrote
The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.
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Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation
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itshere said:
joe-90 said:
neither the first or second world wars were religious wars. They were atheist wars. How many died? 70 odd million?
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What a load of absolute tosh.
They were wars based on politics but the sides involved were religious.
The British Army for the most part was C of E .
Germany was a strong Catholic Country.
You are ignoring regardless of religion Britian and other countries were brought into the war to DEFEND themselves.

70 million people did not have to die at all if they had simply surrendered. Is that what you think should have happened?

However here is a quote from Hitler

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."


Joe 1/2 you are on a losing 'battle' looking for atheist warmongers.
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They were wars about land and boundaries. Whether the combatants were C of E or not is completely laughable. They weren't at war over religion - they were old boundary disputes.
 
Politics attempts to use religion to justify its actions. There's a not so subtle difference.
 
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