Barristers striking

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Spend most of the time indoors and would not know which end to hold a shovel or a broom. Would not know what hard graft was if it smacked 'em in the flux pot.
 
I don’t think barristers striking will affect me. Especially criminal barristers :eek: how do they get away with it? ;)
 
Interestingly after 4 pages there is only really 1 person objecting to these strikes but lots more object to others striking.

Regardless of who is on strike, and for how much, the problem with any pay rise is that it just gets eaten away by rising prices.

The real issue is the cost of living, and the difference between those at the tops of the trees and those at the bottom. Nothing wrong with having a gap in those incomes but there needs to be a rebalancing and closing of the gap. That is the only way to affect the cost of living v wages longer term.
 
jeds said:
...so £36,006.30 all in for a couple of days. The bloke was in it for about two million quid and we won the case, so you could say good value?
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But it isn't really 2 days. My missus worked as a legal sec/PA (civil, mainly commercial property, etc) for a few years. Through her I was made aware of the amount of work which goes on in the back office, but which the clients never see. It was a bit of an eye opener
 
jeds said:
I've had direct experience of working with a planning barrister in an appeal case. Brilliant mind and I was impressed with the forensic detail. Her fee was £18000 per day for a two day case + travel expenses at 45p per mile. Plus we did meet on site and had one office meeting beforehand. Myself and one of the other witnesses did smile - her office was about 3.5 miles down the road, so £36,006.30 all in for a couple of days. The bloke was in it for about two million quid and we won the case, so you could say good value?
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Not a criminal barrister though. Criminal barristers get paid legal aid fees, but if those aren't enough then you will end up seeing similar charges to defend yourself in court for criminal offenses.

And the fact that criminal barristers are paid so much less makes it hard to keep people.
 
IT Minion said:
And the fact that criminal barristers are paid so much less makes it hard to keep people.
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And they are likely to find it easier to move into other fields than some. The case backlog is incredible. The salary levels probably keep many people out of the field.

Salaries are often influenced by the availability of suitable people. Some have responsibilities that don't stand out eg train drivers - lives at stake. £45k is the figure I found but contracts may allow for various degrees of overtime - say Sunday running for instance. I don't know. I have noticed in the past that salaries mentioned in the press at times do not relate to reality. The 45k - how did it achieve that in the first place? There will be reasons as the companies who employ them would love it to be lower as profits could be higher or fairs cheaper. More likely profits as costs generally relate to what the market will stand these days. Maybe that doesn't apply to trains and areas like that.

So a group of people have what are effectively sub inflation pay rises. They have a standard of living. Inflation increases - what do you expect them to do? If the latest forecasts are correct things do look really bad. I doubt if the BofE will turn round to companies and say sorry folks you are going to need to reduce your profits. No, people are expected to accept a drop in their standard of living instead. That in turn will reduce growth.

The docks walk out is an interesting one. They know what the company makes and the workers want some of it. That information is likely to always be involved. Job reductions especially forced ones will always be resisted by unions - if they can. In supermarkets we are likely to see a reduction is checkout staff. What will these people do? Some ancient jobs have gone - bus conductors and petrol pump attendants for instance. Fact of life jobs disappear - seems they have some problems with train drivers going but its eems they are going to be called train captains. All lines would need replacing to avoid that. Maybe one day though - sensor and software etc. ;) I'd guess a human to check might still be a good idea.

The gov already give money out to allow people to live. Working people who can pay for that. This is supposed to fit in with low taxation levels.
 
Let’s face it you could save a fair bunce of money by not giving some criminals legal aid in the first place

Some of em just give em a quick hearing

Guilty as charged bang em up

I don’t quite see why some of em need legal representation / barristers
 
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