Barristers striking

johnny2007 said:
So they can get community service instead of 10 years.
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Or even just get a fair trial.

Nothing worse than not having a fair hearing. Once you lose that, anybody (especially those without money) can be locked up or worse, regardless of being guilty of not. Locked up without trial, anybody think that's a good idea ?

Freedom and fairness comes at a price.
 
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carmanmemoranda said:
Or even just get a fair trial.

Nothing worse than not having a fair hearing. Once you lose that, anybody (especially those without money) can be locked up or worse, regardless of being guilty of not. Locked up without trial, anybody think that's a good idea ?

Freedom and fairness comes at a price.
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When there's no question of guilt (caught ted handed or pleaded guilty) the legal representative acts only as a mediator to obtain the shortest sentence possible.
This is wrong imo.
Those animals that rape and kill people for their own amusement should be locked up for the longest time possible, not the shortest.
 
johnny2007 said:
When there's no question of guilt (caught ted handed or pleaded guilty) the legal representative acts only as a mediator to obtain the shortest sentence possible.
This is wrong imo.
Those animals that rape and kill people for their own amusement should be locked up for the longest time possible, not the shortest.
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And once you go down that line where do you stop? Who decides the guilt or not?

Our system has a lot of faults, but if a fair trial is held it reduces the chances of locking innocent people up. Everybody is entitled to that hearing, even if you lock them up and throw away the key afterwards.
 
carmanmemoranda said:
And once you go down that line where do you stop? Who decides the guilt or not?

Our system has a lot of faults, but if a fair trial is held it reduces the chances of locking innocent people up. Everybody is entitled to that hearing, even if you lock them up and throw away the key afterwards.
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How about those two fruit cakes who beheaded lee rigby
Multiple eye witnesses
Video

Are they guilty or not ???

Bloke who stabbed David amiss
Guilty or not

Bloke who stabbed Joe cox
Guilty or not ?

Bloke who attacked salmon Rushdie guilty or not ?

Yes let’s waste barrister fees and legal costs in them 4 make sure they get a fair trial and that there human rights are respected

No doubt to there guilt none what so ever
 
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transam said:
How about those two fruit cakes who beheaded lee rigby
Multiple eye witnesses
Video

Are they guilty or not ???

Bloke who stabbed David amiss
Guilty or not

Bloke who stabbed Joe cox
Guilty or not ?

Bloke who attacked salmon Rushdie guilty or not ?

Yes let’s waste barrister fees and legal costs in them 4

No doubt to there guilt none what so ever
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no problem with them being proved guilty.

once you start deciding who gets a trial and who doesn't it becomes a very slippery slope.

be careful what you wish for
 
carmanmemoranda said:
no problem with them being proved guilty.

once you start deciding who gets a trial and who doesn't it becomes a very slippery slope.

be careful what you wish for
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No slippery slope with them
100% guilty

So why waste time and money on them

To give some barrister and other legal scheisters a pay check ?
 
transam said:
No slippery slope with them
100% guilty

So why waste time and money on them

To give some barrister and other legal scheisters a pay check ?
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It may be wasted on them, if you look at any 1 case individually.

What if somebody in authority decides you are guilty and locks you up? No questions asked, you are guilty!

Freedom and democracy come at a price, but it's better than justice being handled by any person or people chosen to decide it.

For all its faults I believe in a fair trial for all
 
carmanmemoranda said:
For all its faults I believe in a fair trial for all
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Isn't enshrined in the Magna Carta?

What rights are enshrined in Magna Carta?


Magna Carta
  • No new taxes unless a common counsel agrees.
  • All free men have the right to justice and a fair trial with a jury.
  • The Monarch doesn't have absolute power. The Law is above all men and applies to everyone equally.
  • All free citizens can own and inherit property.
  • Widows who own property don't have to remarry.

humanrights.gov.au

The Story of Our Freedom - educational digital resources on the history of Magna Carta and its human rights legacy.

The Story of Our Freedom is a series of online educational resources (including an interactive timeline, video and teacher resources) which explore the evolution of human rights since 1215 and the legacy of Magna Carta on human rights and freedoms in Australia today.
humanrights.gov.au humanrights.gov.au

I like the last one. :oops:
 
carmanmemoranda said:
It may be wasted on them, if you look at any 1 case individually.

What if somebody in authority decides you are guilty and locks you up? No questions asked, you are guilty!

Freedom and democracy come at a price, but it's better than justice being handled by any person or people chosen to decide it.

For all its faults I believe in a fair trial for all
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All
Cases are or should be looked at on an individual basis

An individual
Case of 2 blokes on video beheading some one in a public street with witnesses around

And the point of wasting legal reorensentation expenses on them is what ?
 
transam said:
All
Cases are or should be looked at on an individual basis

An individual
Case of 2 blokes on video beheading some one in a public street with witnesses around

And the point of wasting legal reorensentation expenses on them is what ?
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It's not wasted though is it.

It is upholding your own personal freedom
 
transam said:
Yes pay me a decent salary and I will :cool:
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So if there's witnesses then there shouldn't be any right to a defense?

www.nytimes.com

Woman Linked to 1955 Emmett Till Murder Tells Historian Her Claims Were False (Published 2017)

Carolyn Bryant Donham is quoted in a new book as admitting her long-ago allegations that Emmett grabbed her and was menacing and sexually crude toward her, “is not true.”
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Or if you want a really depressing read:

deathpenaltyinfo.org

Executed But Possibly Innocent

The Death Penalty Information Center is a non-profit organization serving the media and the public with analysis and information about capital punishment. Founded in 1990, the Center promotes informed discussion of the death penalty by preparing in-depth reports, conducting briefings for…
deathpenaltyinfo.org deathpenaltyinfo.org
 
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