Being 150 or 200 year old

Please try thinking about this

What do you think happens when a person dies…..do you think there may be a process whereby the USA department of social security gets informed?

To save you having to think, I’ve searched for you and here is the answer from the horses mouth:

“In most cases, the funeral director will report the person's death to Social Security”

If you think there are families who don’t notify the DSS, then you need to find the evidence…..not from a Trump source but verifiable
is the SSA a trump source ?
 
IT blaming the business for not being clear, business blaming IT for not delivering what they want. Nothing new.
Not really, the business didn't have any input into the Musk numbers. That was the point of the investigation and why it was so stupid.

The social security data ****up was down to 'data scientists' looking at the database, finding oddities (no death date for some records) and then not digging any further and making stupid assumptions. If they'd asked the business they'd have found out that this was a known flaw in the data that would have taken a lot of time and effort to purge and that was chosen not to be fixed because it wasn't impacting any decisions. The government chose not to send people digging through paper records from the 1800s and 1900s to find death certificates for people who weren't receiving benefits in the first place

Similar mistakes are all through the rest of their numbers.
 
Trump supporters like gas112 and Filly won’t read it.

They are not interested in facts, only propaganda.

Facts would destroy their belief in Trump

I did read it actually. They (and Snopes) acknowledge a degree of fraud, both suggest Must was exaggerating the figures.

A 2023 audit from the SSA inspector general found that as of December 2020, the Numident was missing death information for some 18.9 million Social Security numbers corresponding to people born in 1920 or earlier (archived here). In other words, those people were marked as 100 or older and alive.
The inspector general concluded that most of those 18.9 million holders were dead, however. Just 44,000 -- which the report described as "almost none" of them -- were receiving benefits.
"Benefits were paid only on 44,000," Biggs said. "That's a perfectly reasonable number, given the population of Americans of that age."
 
That's a matter of opinion. Where the savings are made is irrelevant if you don't care about the consequences.
No its not your talking about core services
Come on give us your ideas where to save.
if 20 is too many for you lets cut it down to half a dozen by the way that is 6
 
Trump supporters like gas112 and Filly won’t read it.

They are not interested in facts, only propaganda.

Facts would destroy their belief in Trump

But, you are a secret Trump supporter!!!
 
I did read it actually. They (and Snopes) acknowledge a degree of fraud, both suggest Must was exaggerating the figures.

A 2023 audit from the SSA inspector general found that as of December 2020, the Numident was missing death information for some 18.9 million Social Security numbers corresponding to people born in 1920 or earlier (archived here). In other words, those people were marked as 100 or older and alive.
The inspector general concluded that most of those 18.9 million holders were dead, however. Just 44,000 -- which the report described as "almost none" of them -- were receiving benefits.
"Benefits were paid only on 44,000," Biggs said. "That's a perfectly reasonable number, given the population of Americans of that age."
Its still $1.8Bn a year, so worth checking if they are alive.
 
Its still $1.8Bn a year, so worth checking if they are alive.
Also, terrible logic. The rest of the SS bill in the US is a far higher number so logically you'd want to check all of those first.

Who knows, they might even do regular checks on very old people. Musk wouldn't know as he would have fired them and his 'data scientists' wouldn't have checked.
 
based on the average. The total cost is $1.3Tn
That's the budget for the SSA. That includes overheads and a few other non-retirement benefits. On average a retiree received $2k per month or $24,000 a year.

See, this is what happens when people don't check they understand the numbers they're using. ;)
 
That's the budget for the SSA. That includes overheads and a few other non-retirement benefits. On average a retiree received $2k per month or $24,000 a year.

See, this is what happens when people don't check they understand the numbers they're using. ;)
You are assuming they only get social security. There is FERS and CSRS also. Not to mention the costs you argue are included in the budget, but want to discount from my savings estimates :unsure:
 
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