Way I see it there are far to many engineers working for certain companys ?? that are under far to much pressure , constantly having to sell things , up there output , do it quicker , cut costs ect ect & who are to blame pencil pushers . paper shufflers D**ks in suits , most of whom would not know there back side from a pineapple (IMHO) but they never get the blame , they are never responsible , they just blame the bloke at the coal face always have always will