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[Notch7]

MOD: Please refrain from more of this pretentious Ad hominem clap trap. All of you.

 

[JohnD]

Of course it's NOT racist.

Apart from the definition of the word having nothing to do with religion, You can't see what race the wearer is, can you? She may be white.

Oh, you mean in the sense that anti-semitism is not racist.

And does that make it OK?

 

[SirGalahad]

Considering that Londons population is 1 Muslim to 5 and the overall UK population is 5-8% Muslim, 51% to 41% is very favourable but doesn't very well support what you're saying.



If you'd bothered to read the article:

The UK population is 5% Muslim. Also muslims make up about 12.4% of Londons population. Your ranges are quite, shall we say "broad".

If you had bothered to check facts.

 

[EFLImpudence]

This is typical of your snide retorts with which everyone is completely fed up.
Either discuss subjects logically and properly or don't reply.

Oh, you mean in the sense that anti-semitism is not racist.

I have never said that.
Please quote where I have ever said that anti-semitism is not racist.

And does that make it OK?

Because I say correctly that something is not racist does not mean I am in favour of racism or that that something is OK.

 

[ellal]

So you are resorting to being personal now then? Excellent.

No, it was in genuine concern for your obvious predicament in not seeing the answers for what they were...

And thus the question had to be asked as to whether you actually understood what you were asking about.
(Btw, I hear notchy is rather good at 'clueless therapy' for groups of 'related' posters )

 

[Notch7]

No, it was in genuine concern for your obvious predicament in not seeing the answers for what they were...

that doesn't work -you are the one that is wrong

 

[ellal]

that doesn't work -you are the one that is wrong

Ah, the 'almighty' has spoken in place of his disciple...
(or is it the other way around?)

That 'stream' of yours simply won't ever stop will it, notchy

 

[JohnD]

I have never said that.

I didn't say you did

"A raspberry is not a berry"

"Oh, you mean in the sense that a strawberry is not a berry."

"I never said that a strawberry is not a berry"

 

[durhamplumber]

Ellal...your argument about a link between bullying and school uniforms makes no sense....Like suggesting birth rate goes down...Stork population goes down......Therefore....Storks must deliver new babies!!!.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

and if the women wearing burkas fit into Western society, considering we are 'socialised' differently.

There are usually various recognisable communities within a society, e.g Muslim, Jewish, Irish, Travelling, etc.
They all have their own distinguishable differences. Each person will have been 'socialised' or 'conditioned' within wider society, and within their own smaller community.

So the women wearing burkas have been conditioned? Is that a good thing I wonder...

Neither good or bad, it just is. Similarly, the wearing of a crucifix, turban, kilt, shtreimel, etc, etc is neither good or bad. Is it important?

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Not oppressed! I still can't believe you compare school uniform! Does school uniform have a history based by men controlling women? Is school uniform just for females?

Not a reasonable comparison. There are many reports from Muslim women that confirm that they are not pressured, obligated, forced to wear any particular garment.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I didn't say you did
"A raspberry is not a berry"
"Oh, you mean in the sense that a strawberry is not a berry."
"I never said that a strawberry is not a berry"

I think you are confused.

A valid analogy would be to substitute strawberry with banana and then quote
"Oh, you mean in the sense that a banana is not a berry."
when I never did say a banana was not a berry.

Of course it's NOT racist.
Apart from the definition of the word having nothing to do with religion, You can't see what race the wearer is, can you? She may be white.

Oh, you mean in the sense that anti-semitism is not racist.
And does that make it OK?

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Of course it's NOT racist.

Apart from the definition of the word having nothing to do with religion, You can't see what race the wearer is, can you? She may be white.

The current legislation deals with hate crimes.

The police and Crown Prosecution Service define a hate crime as "any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice, based on a person's disability or perceived disability; race or perceived race; or religion or perceived religion; or sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation or transgender identity or perceived transgender identity".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45130532

 

[Bodd]

This is interesting...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...ntroversial-burka-comments-amid-a3907106.html

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Considering that Londons population is 1 Muslim to 5 and the overall UK population is 5-8% Muslim, 51% to 41% is very favourable but doesn't very well support what you're saying.

Sky Data interviewed a nationally representative sample of 1,649 Sky customers ...

I would suggest that being a Sky customer is highly likely to place you in a certain quantile of the population.