Brexit is not the will of the people, it never has been

[Harry Bloomfield]

When you say we didn't have the full facts when voting, could that not be Said for the first vote? In 1973 4 or 5 we didn't have the full facts then.
But now we have seen 40 odd year later how it's turned out do you not think we are all more the wiser

I didn't vote back then, I had zero interest, but no one voted to join an organisation which the EU has become, with each year that has passed. With each year that has passed, we have had less and less say in its operation and had more and more irrelevant rules imposed on us.

This time I did vote and I voted for out - nothing since has left me in any doubt that it was the correct decision. I would rather we were in, but not the way it is going.

 

[Iamchamps]

It makes me sick to the stomach how corrupt our government is.

Isn’t it corrupt to not carry out what the people voted for?

Which was leave, there was no deals or anything it simply was leave.

 

[Notch7]

Really? All we voted for in 1975 was to join the common market and that grew, sneakily, into the EU where they want to control everything we do.

That wasnt the point you were making though.

You were claiming the % voting has some correlation and suggests a trend.

Whilst I dont agree with how the EU has moved towards a political union, it is wrong to claim it wants to control all we do.

I expect you are interpreting EU regulations as the EU controlling everything. The reality is that the EU have taken regulations from various regulatory bodies like British Standards and made them all into an EU standard. The benefit is 1 standard for 28 countries and allows free movement of goods.

If you still believe that is the EU taking control of everything, please bear in mind it was Thatcher that was a very key part of setting up the single market.

 

[Bodd]

Im not sure how that is a response to the point I made.

Well these Tory MPs were just that. They were not by majority Brexiteers so we should be blaming you as remainers that it has not happened. If it doesn't happen now we have a Brexit government. Then blame away.

 

[Notch7]

Isn’t it corrupt to not carry out what the people voted for?

Which was leave, there was no deals or anything it simply was leave.

The UK cant just leave, thats the problem -40 plus years of trade integration cant just 'simply leave'

And the current government are being corrupt because they are totally lying about the realities of leaving.

For a start there is no such thing as 'no deal' -leaving the EU means leaving all treaties and institutions also it means losing all trade agreement around the world.

What does that nean? -it means years and years of negotiations to rebuild trade deals which will be worse than existing.

 

[JohnD]

Yes I knew that, but how do you catch them to send them home is the real problem.

the real problem is that the UK government doesn't bother registering them.

Whose fault do you think that is?

Will resigning from the EU cause this failure by the UK government to stop?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

the real problem is that the UK government doesn't bother registering them.

Whose fault do you think that is?

Will resigning from the EU cause this failure by the UK government to stop?

When there are fewer people coming into the UK, they might possibly be able to get a handle on the problem. ID cards were they way forward, when they were first proposed and which I supported, much easier than to know who has and has not a right to be here. What's one more card to carry?

 

[Notch7]

Well these Tory MPs were just that. They were not by majority Brexiteers so we should be blaming you as remainers that it has not happened. If it doesn't happen now we have a Brexit government. Then blame away.

They are still remainers.

But they are happy to act as leavers to get a cabinet job.

Parliament arithmatic hasnt changed to Brexit gov or not, makes no diff.

At least Boris is interesting, unlike May

 

[JohnD]

When there are fewer people coming into the UK

What makes you think that will happen?

Why will the UK government decide to start doing something it doesn't bother to do today?

Why didn't it start yesterday?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

What makes you think that will happen?

Why will the UK government decide to start doing something it doesn't bother to do today?

Why didn't it start yesterday?

I don't suppose you know what it was like getting in and out of the UK, pre-EU do you? It wasn't easy, everyone was checked properly. It is difficult to deal with the floods of people these days.

 

[JohnD]

that's funny, you don't like the answers to my questions.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

that's funny, you don't like the answers to my questions.

That is even funnier because you have not provided any answer only posed questions, which I have tried to answer.

 

[Mottie]

What does that nean? -it means years and years of negotiations to rebuild trade deals which will be worse than existing.

How do you know that? There are many very large countries in the world that are not in the EU that are doing very well. How comes?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

How do you know that? There are many very large countries in the world that are not in the EU that are doing very well. How comes?

Relax, we'll be fine..

 

[Bodd]

They are still remainers.

But they are happy to act as leavers to get a cabinet job.

Parliament arithmatic hasnt changed to Brexit gov or not, makes no diff.

At least Boris is interesting, unlike May

Well its the best we've got until I get home.