cameron had better not dare

[big-all]

connect himself in any way to the local people clearing up they are doing a fanstastic job as are the people grouping together to protect the property from the thugs
if he claims they are doing it "because they are part off the big society" he will have lost the plot

 

[kevindgas]

think you'll find he's already lost the plot!

 

[wreckedit]

Actually they are already being labelled as.....Vigilantes. So what's the difference from people that want to help themselves...NOT A LOT!!!!

If Cameron goes down there to "take a look" I'd love to kick his a.se and his bo..cks, as well. What a tosser him and his big society is.

 

[Nige F]

Bring back Thatchers Victorian Values

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Bring back a police force that actually does something to prevent, deter and act on criminal activities and a legal system that backs them up.

 

[wotan]

Bring back a police force that actually does something to prevent, deter and act on criminal activities and a legal system that backs them up.

It's not the police that let the country down, it's the legal system once the offenders are brought to court, mamby pampy sentences from over lenient judges. No wonder the police get dispirited.

Wotan

 

[Nige F]

A few weeks in a proper Penitentiary will sort most of them - The Pen. not P.Correct prisons

 

[big-all]

Bring back Thatchers Victorian Values

we already have them with the rich getting richer whilst the poor get poorer

 

[joinerjohn]

It's not the police that let the country down, it's the legal system once the offenders are brought to court, mamby pampy sentences from over lenient judges. No wonder the police get dispirited.

Wotan

My ex wife's lad got 21 months in prison at the end of June for growing cannabis. Have a guess when he's told he'll be released?? Next June?? No.... Next Easter?? No... He's been told already that he'll be released in time for Christmas..
What an example ,, 21 months turned into something just shy of 6 months. I'd have given him 3 yrs with the proviso that 3 yrs means just that. No half the sentence off automatically,, No time off for good behaviour. Politicians know our prisons are full and so come up with these stupid ideas of serving half a sentence, then take some more time off for fairly good behaviour.
Personally, I'd like to see the government build more prisons (help the construction industry out of the recession) and make them places of hardship, where the only thing a criminal is entitled to is a cold shower once a week and Asda smart price meals once a day.

It's high time judges and magistrates handed down meaningful sentences for all criminal behaviour. Perhaps we need a penal system similar to the one they have in the US. Hard labour, chain gangs etc. Before anyone comes along bleating on about human rights, just remember, these criminals think nothing of yours or others human rights when going out committing crime in the first place.

 

[Big Tone]

Here's something you may like JoinerJohn. Sorry to all that it's a bit long but you may agree it's good reading..

"TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO, HE IS THE MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF (ARIZONA) AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

These are some of the reasons why:

Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona from spending tens of million of dollars on another expensive prison complex.

He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.

He banned smoking and porno magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but "G" movies. He says: "they're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave."

He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer's money.

Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.

When asked why the weather channel he replied: "so these morons will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs."

He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."

He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record for June 2nd), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed- wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.

On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees. "This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace," said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. "It's inhumane."

Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. "Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves."

Wednesday he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the tents: "It's between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to walk all day in the sun, wearing full battle gear and get shot at, and they have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!""

 

[merlin50]

will this be removed again

 

[maltaron]

The Navy has just decommissioned two large ships. Perfect for prisons. Dump the rioters in to the ships with sustenance level food and set them adrift with a small hole in the hull.

 

[geraint]

connect himself in any way to the local people clearing up they are doing a fanstastic job as are the people grouping together to protect the property from the thugs
if he claims they are doing it "because they are part off the big society" he will have lost the plot

so why..... he is the man in charge...

 

[big-all]

so why..... he is the man in charge...

he is not responsible for there action it was without his guidance or knowledge

 

[spacecat]

And what affect has it had on crime in america sweet fa