Can the UK be truly independent after Brexit.

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If you can't understand the point made, then just look at the picture again. It should help you.

I am too busy to be able to spend enough time trying to explain it to you. I feel it will take ages.

Almost 400 posts in four weeks? Funny definition of "busy".
 
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back to the op.

no country can be independent.

trading / security / politics etc are all interlinked.

even North Korea has external influences
 
back to the op.

no country can be independent.

trading / security / politics etc are all interlinked.

even North Korea has external influences


Well I think what OP suggests is unless we abandon our support for the Iran deal the US won't want to trade with us but that's only important to the independence questions if we presume we wouldn't be able to trade on WTO terms either.

I don't see there's a position to argue; it's a case of cross the bridge when we get to it - seems to be more panic around the EU deal before thinking of a US deal.
 
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no country can be independent.
trading / security / politics etc are all interlinked.
even North Korea has external influences

In which case I can't help thinking that it is better to be a Member, with voting rights, and one of the largest and most influential in the bloc, rather than an argumentative outsider whingeing that "it's not fair"
 
In all seriousness, how would we really rely on Trump for anything? The guy is a nutter. He'll probably change his mind and we will hear about it via twitter by next week, with a denial that he ever said it in the first place.
Yep, that sounds like the quitter approach as well!

(substitute 'trump' with any leave figure you care to mention)
 
Yep, that sounds like the quitter approach as well!
Nothing of the sort. It's an observation about how bad and flakey Trump is.
By the way, I voted remain. Amazing how wrong you can get it isn't it?
 
Bingo...

Quitters really don't get it that the UK will be going cap in hand to good ole uncle sam...

And the NHS will be part of the 'deal' too!
Ellal talking unsubstantiated nonsense as usual
 
Nothing of the sort. It's an observation about how bad and flakey Trump is.
By the way, I voted remain. Amazing how wrong you can get it isn't it?
Amazing how wrong you can get isn't it...

Because you obviously jumped to conclusions, and didn't read the bit in brackets :LOL:
 
Amazing how wrong you can get isn't it...

Because you obviously jumped to conclusions, and didn't read the bit in brackets :LOL:
The bit you added after I quoted you?
You've already got it wrong about me and my vote and about what I meant with Trump. Why keep digging and trying to have a pop at me? Are you trying to make yourself feel 'big' again? It's not working, trust me.
 
No you added it after.
Come on lad, get it all out your system, get all the abuse, the point scoring, the having a pop's out once and for all. There there, you may feel better after and perhaps we can all move on.
 
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