Can't Ignite Baxi Bermuda Back Boiler

[Stuckinarut]

That's brilliant. Thank you. Where did you get that from?

Gas safety installation and use regulations 1998

 

[WSB]

Gas safety installation and use regulations 1998

Thanks. So anyone switching off the gas to fix the the cooker must attempt to restart the boiler then?
Not just initial installation?

 

[danfre]

Probably needs purging of air

 

[WSB]

Probably needs purging of air

I managed to light the fireplace thats part of the boiler though, so guess thats ok

 

[Stuckinarut]

Thanks. So anyone switching off the gas to fix the the cooker must attempt to restart the boiler then?
Not just initial installation?

Correct, if the gas has been decayed from the pipework. This is why I asked where he turned the gas off, as if it was just an isolation valve for the cooker, then no need to disturb anything else and therefore would only need to purge and relight the cooker.

 

[DP]

Sometimes the ht lead can come off so gas at the pilot assembley will not ignite.
Other times the piezo ignitor can be defective
Original thermocouples were almost indestructible, modern ones are quite poor quality.

Second the call that cooker fitter ( I take it you checked his gas safe card)

Is a safety restraint fitted?

Can you take a picture of the hose and post here?

 

[WSB]

Sometimes the ht lead can come off so gas at the pilot assembley will not ignite.
Other times the piezo ignitor can be defective
Original thermocouples were almost indestructible, modern ones are quite poor quality.

Second the call that cooker fitter ( I take it you checked his gas safe card)

Is a safety restraint fitted?

Can you take a picture of the hose and post here?

The engineer was from Hotpoint as cooker still under the 1 year warranty. Would like to think they would have checked that.

When you say safety restraint, do you mean the chain from the cooker to the wall that we have?

Thinking that it might be worth getting a cooker gas isolation valve might be a good idea, so for any future work, the boiler needn't be affected.
Any suggestions?

Thanks

 

[Stuckinarut]

Thinking that it might be worth getting a cooker gas isolation valve might be a good idea, so for any future work, the boiler needn't be affected.
Any suggestions?

If you have a bayonet fitting, then you don’t need one, as it’s classed as suitable. We have no idea why the gas was turned off, unless it’s Hotpoint policy or the pipe work was affected?

 

[WSB]

If you have a bayonet fitting, then you don’t need one, as it’s classed as suitable. We have no idea why the gas was turned off, unless it’s Hotpoint policy or the pipe work was affected?

Yeah, the bloke who usually does the gas service and hopefully fixing the boiler ignition today, did question why the hotpoint engineer didn't just disconnect the bayonet fitting.

I'm guessing by disconnecting that bayonet hose, there's less guarantee of switching the gas off than from the lever by the meter.

Seriously thinking about getting an isolation valve fitted for the cooker.
Would be nice if it was possible to get a bayonet hose which has an isolation valve built in as would be a simple job.
If there's such a thing?

 

[Stuckinarut]

I'm guessing by disconnecting that bayonet hose, there's less guarantee of switching the gas off than from the lever by the meter.

Not really, as the ECV can pass just like a bayonet could. The difference would be leak detection fluid on the bayonet fitting to ensure the gas isn't passing. Basic stuff really.

Seriously thinking about getting an isolation valve fitted for the cooker.
Would be nice if it was possible to get a bayonet hose which has an isolation valve built in as would be a simple job.
If there's such a thing?

There would no harm in having one, but I don't think there's a dual type. Up to you if you wanted the additional expense. You could always take it up with Hotpoint as to why he turned the gas off leaving you without a functioning boiler.

 

[WSB]

Not really, as the ECV can pass just like a bayonet could. The difference would be leak detection fluid on the bayonet fitting to ensure the gas isn't passing. Basic stuff really.

There would no harm in having one, but I don't think there's a dual type. Up to you if you wanted the additional expense. You could always take it up with Hotpoint as to why he turned the gas off leaving you without a functioning boiler.

I did take it up with Hotpoint who just called him and relayed the message back to me saying that it wasn't his responsibility and he didn't have experience with these boilers anyway.
Pretty useless...

I'll ask the gas engineer who's hopefully starting the boiler today about getting a valve fitted into the pipework somehow.
Would be quite handy if this cooker continues to play up.

Thanks

 

[HERTS P&D]

Your point of contact is Hotpoint, I would be telling them to sort it out and if it means they send out a different engineer so be it.

Andy

 

[WSB]

Your point of contact is Hotpoint, I would be telling them to sort it out and if it means they send out a different engineer so be it.

Andy

I did. They said that if I wanted a different engineer, it would be late next week some time.
The idiot came back last night and put the grill back in the cooker the correct way round so cooker fine for now.
My local engineer coming this morning to hopefully sort the boiler.

 

[gas112]

Your point of contact is Hotpoint, I would be telling them to sort it out and if it means they send out a different engineer so be it.

Andy

existing fault with back boiler igntion , not hotpoints problem .
Same as when meter installers or cadent attend yep attempt to light it but if it doesnt light its not their problem

 

[WSB]

existing fault with back boiler igntion , not hotpoints problem .
Same as when meter installers or cadent attend yep attempt to light it but if it doesnt light its not their problem

Hotpoint bloke didn't even attempt to light it