Cedar cladding suppliers

[23vc]

Anyone done cedar/larch cladding recently? Want to do the front of my house, local merchants might be able to order it in apparently, but failing that I’m after any recommendations for online suppliers. Silva looks like they’re not shipping at the mo. Southgate timber seem ok and they sent me a sample, but not bought in bulk from them before.
Anyone got recent recommendations for suppliers? Muchos appreciated

 

[^woody^]

Vincent Timber, Sparkbrook, Birmingham.

 

[kingandy2nd]

Anyone done cedar/larch cladding recently? Want to do the front of my house, local merchants might be able to order it in apparently, but failing that I’m after any recommendations for online suppliers. Silva looks like they’re not shipping at the mo. Southgate timber seem ok and they sent me a sample, but not bought in bulk from them before.
Anyone got recent recommendations for suppliers? Muchos appreciated

Also interest in this as I want to clad part of the outside of my house at the end of my build.
Can I ask why you decided on the cedar/larch? I like all the systems that silva have, T&G, etc... but something like Balau would look amazing but will cost £££.

 

[kingandy2nd]

BTW have you seen: https://www.iwood.co.uk/cladding-external/24/cedar-western-red/

 

[23vc]

Also interest in this as I want to clad part of the outside of my house at the end of my build.
Can I ask why you decided on the cedar/larch? I like all the systems that silva have, T&G, etc... but something like Balau would look amazing but will cost £££.

Never really considered much else tbh, I did have some balau decking years ago which looked lovely when new, but weathered very quick like within a year despite me following all the oiling instructions to the letter. Then again it was in direct sunlight most of the time.
Been torn between grey cedral type or cedar and swung towards the cedar as I’m planning on oiling it every year to try and keep the colour. There’s a place round the corner who have managed to keep it looking great for 10+ years so will do my best...

 

[23vc]

BTW have you seen: https://www.iwood.co.uk/cladding-external/24/cedar-western-red/

Ta, looks good. I’m about £200 below the minimum order so far but will see how much I need to shell out on the treatments

 

[23vc]

Vincent Timber, Sparkbrook, Birmingham.

Will give em a shout, ta

 

[^woody^]

And your screws - www.russwood.co.uk/shop/product/l-gofix-a2-screws/

Osmo Oil Extra for the coating (remember to coat the rear of the cladding before fitting), and you should get three-five years between recoats, but I recoated after two years for the first recoat. And it goes on really thin, not like traditional oils or varnish.

 

[23vc]

And your screws - www.russwood.co.uk/shop/product/l-gofix-a2-screws/

Osmo Oil Extra for the coating (remember to coat the rear of the cladding before fitting), and you should get three-five years between recoats, but I recoated after two years for the first recoat. And it goes on really thin, not like traditional oils or varnish.

Nice one, thanks. Vincent are all out of anything kiln dried till later in the year, seems there’s a run on it at the mo

 

[^woody^]

The other one is Sykes Timber at Atherstone

 

[23vc]

Anyone know if “air dried” is a no go if I want to get it oiled and fitted soon? Seeing a few places which have air dried but not kiln dried. Guess it can be pretty subjective? I don’t mind keeping it in the garage for a few weeks to dry out but guess that won’t cut it, am I better holding out for kiln dried stuff?

 

[^woody^]

Kiln dried is more useful for internal joinery (and certain timber) as it gets the moisture content down to around 10% so there will be (should be) no shrinkage when the timber settles in the internal environment.

Air dried however may get the timber down to 20-30% which is what it would be anyway when fitted externally. As long as it has been properly dried for the recommended time period - which reputable suppliers could be expected to do,. Also it should be kept in the dry if stored on site for a while.

Other factors are whether you choose the more knotty variety (knots may fall out with further shrinkage), and some suppliers say that they can machine a better finish on kiln dried timber - but I don't know if that's a real issue.

There are general recommendations for timber cladding to be optimally fitted in late summer early august, as it it then it minimises shrinkage issues. However, cedar is very dimensionally stable and the tongue and grooves have sufficient tolerance to prevent the laps opening up or cupping from expansion.

 

[23vc]

Kiln dried is more useful for internal joinery (and certain timber) as it gets the moisture content down to around 10% so there will be (should be) no shrinkage when the timber settles in the internal environment.

Air dried however may get the timber down to 20-30% which is what it would be anyway when fitted externally. As long as it has been properly dried for the recommended time period - which reputable suppliers could be expected to do,. Also it should be kept in the dry if stored on site for a while.

Other factors are whether you choose the more knotty variety (knots may fall out with further shrinkage), and some suppliers say that they can machine a better finish on kiln dried timber - but I don't know if that's a real issue.

There are general recommendations for timber cladding to be optimally fitted in late summer early august, as it it then it minimises shrinkage issues. However, cedar is very dimensionally stable and the tongue and grooves have sufficient tolerance to prevent the laps opening up or cupping from expansion.

thanks. Reckon it’s worth storing it (flat) in the house for a couple of weeks before oiling, just to give it a bit more of a chance to get a bit drier, or pointless? As I reckon I’ll struggle to get kiln dried.

 

[kingandy2nd]

And your screws - www.russwood.co.uk/shop/product/l-gofix-a2-screws/

Osmo Oil Extra for the coating (remember to coat the rear of the cladding before fitting), and you should get three-five years between recoats, but I recoated after two years for the first recoat. And it goes on really thin, not like traditional oils or varnish.

Hijacking your thread again @23vc Do you reckon clear Cosmo oil extra, or the cedar one? Not sure if the latter is a stain to try and dye other wood to match cedar?

I was about to order £128 of screws from russwood... and they want to charge £17.40 in postage - scoundrels! Will look elsewhere for them now.

 

[23vc]

Hijacking your thread again @23vc Do you reckon clear Cosmo oil extra, or the cedar one?

I read something (on forums so must be true) that the clear isn’t as good at blocking UV, and the cedar is too dark, and the light oak’s the one to go for.
But who knows, I’ve ordered samples of all 3 so will post a pic when I get ‘em