I would have made an assumption that the two 3c&e cables at the ceiling rose went to the two switches with both blue and yellow connected together. One red being switch live, the other being switch return.
The wiring in the 2 switches that operate th lights are: L1 Yellow, L2 Blue with Red sheath and Red common. The other switch is exactly the same.
Another option at the old rose, was the two blues were in the Loop, two yellows in the switch line and the two reds joined through.
As for the 3 core in the second rose