Church Scandal gone global.

[skitzee2k]

Religious belief is the reason athiests exist....need i say more...they should thank god for there very existence.

So, by the same logic, people exist to satisfy the needs of murderers. Children exist because paedophiles exist. Women exist because rapists exist.

Cart before the horse dear boy, cart before the horse.

well yes, the same could be said that carrots exist because of rabbits which must mean animals did not just evolve but vegetable did too,, but that would be ludicrous

Als, can i ask you a question. What do you think people mean by evolution?
What is your understanding of what it means?

well I would like a defintion from you

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Of course, i'll give you an answer. I would like to hear yours first though, (not to be childish but I asked you first)

 

[dextrous]

Due to evolutionary traits our urethra is wrapped next to our prostate...which when swollen blocks the pipe meaning we can't pee.

Are you taking the pee now skitz? Given your forum name, I'm starting to wonder if you have a split personality disorder and are really alsheating as well as skitz, since you both appeared on this site at a curiously similar time. You're arguing against yourself - a bit like that mateyboy (the baddie) in spiderman

 

[Karinska]

how do we know that no one has ever been killed in the name of athiesm?

where do we get our facts from.

Religious belief is the reason athiests exist....need i say more...they should thank god for there very existence.

what about all the murders and wars that happen how do we know that they were not athiests.......and the ones in the media that point the finger at muslims...again is like few grains of sand of the whole world histroy of wars and killings

sometimes I think i'm too smooth

No. you needn't ....... YOU NEEDN'T

 

[alsheating]

Hiccups are a left over trait from when we had both gills and lungs. It is a misfiring of our brain that causes our air ways to close in order for us to breath through our gills...which we no longer have.

Skitz what have you been smoking....

 

[alsheating]

Als me old mate I refer to any recent converts to a religion as born agains Muslim Christian whatever all the same fairytale at the end of the day

I am not born again, alwasy had faith, just a lack of knowledge

 

[alsheating]

Als, can i ask you a question. What do you think people mean by evolution?
What is your understanding of what it means?

charles dawrins theory with many holes

 

[alsheating]

skitz, can you give me an answer to the following

1. Do you believe a mass of matter and energy rotated until it exploded?

1A. Did that mass of energy and matter create itself?

1A-A. Do you believe that all matter and energy in the Universe was created by a Big Bang 14 billion years ago?

1A-B. Were you or anyone existing today, existing at that point to observe this occurrence?

1A-C. If you didn't exist to observe it, how can you test it today? And wouldn't your tests be based on the assumption that it happened since no one was there to observe it?

1B. Can you repeat an occurrence that no one has observed?

1B-A. How so? (Give 100%, infallible, non-opinionated, empirical proof on how you can)

1B-B. If you do attempt to repeat it, wouldn't the outcome be based on the assumption that it happened like you thought it did?

1B-C. How not? (Give 100%, infallible, non-opinionated, empirical proof on how it wouldn't be)


since you are a learned and devout athiest

 

[spacecat]

If u want to see evolution in action look at the very early stages of a pregnancy you can barely distinguish the embryo from a tadpole or the embryo of many animals clearly showing an evolutionary link to other creatures.
You choose to ignore what the evidence is thats your fear of reality

 

[dextrous]

The more I read this, the more I'm convinced Als and skitz are one and the same Good ruse skitz/Al or whoever you are. You had us all going there -what have you found out?

 

[alsheating]

i am not skitz, how dare you insult me like this..take that back

 

[dextrous]

i am not skitz, how dare you insult me like this..take that back

nice try skitz. Am impressed by your multiple (nearly simultaneous) posting techniques. Fast typing and maybe a couple of PC's?

 

[spacecat]

The more I read this, the more I'm convinced Als and skitz are one and the same Good ruse skitz/Al or whoever you are. You had us all going there -what have you found out?

Yeah I feel a chain being yanked

 

[alsheating]

oh honestly, you dont really think i am skitz aswell, but then what would be my objective.

 

[skitzee2k]

skitz, can you give me an answer to the following

1. Do you believe a mass of matter and energy rotated until it exploded?

1A. Did that mass of energy and matter create itself?

1A-A. Do you believe that all matter and energy in the Universe was created by a Big Bang 14 billion years ago?

1A-B. Were you or anyone existing today, existing at that point to observe this occurrence?

1A-C. If you didn't exist to observe it, how can you test it today? And wouldn't your tests be based on the assumption that it happened since no one was there to observe it?

1B. Can you repeat an occurrence that no one has observed?

1B-A. How so? (Give 100%, infallible, non-opinionated, empirical proof on how you can)

1B-B. If you do attempt to repeat it, wouldn't the outcome be based on the assumption that it happened like you thought it did?

1B-C. How not? (Give 100%, infallible, non-opinionated, empirical proof on how it wouldn't be)


since you are a learned and devout athiest

It is spelt atheist man, I was hoping you would start typing it right without me saying...it's like if i kept calling you a msulim.

Secondly, I notice we have gone away from evolution and gone onto the big bang theory. (i'm still waiting for what you think Darwin's theory was).

OK, we are on to a topic where I only have a brief understanding so bare with me. Physics is not really my thing.
I believe in the singularity. That all energy (and therefore matter) expanded from this singularity. in the first 10,000th of a second (or so)the relationship between these energies started the 'forces' we have. Many of the chemical reactions started happening, eventually causing what we would think of as material.

The radiation from the 'big bang' can still actually be seen and red drift proves that stars, planets and galaxies are all moving away from eachother as if from a central starting point.

 

[dextrous]

Had my doubts - but the 2.32 als posting did it for me. The language was too much a variant.

So, seriously als/skitz, do you want that quit smoking book or not - it's in an envelope and if you don't need it, oxfam bookshop will make good use of it