Climate: The Movie

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So you know better than the acclaimed scientists in the film, including a Nobel Laureate? And we are talking about physicists here, not "climate scientists" with sociology degrees.

Noseall is one of them climate
Hypocrits Along with a load of others in here

They talk the talk but do f all of any consequence

Zilch / zero / nowt and if they do it’s generally for some type of financial gain

A sort of snout in the trough policy under the guise of saving the planet all
Paid for by the tax payer

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

A sort of snout in the trough policy under the guise of saving the planet all
Paid for by the tax payer

Say no more, explains everything really..

 

[Notch7]

Say no more, explains everything really..

Does it?

What about the huge amount of money fossil fuel interests put into climate change denial

 

[berty3000]

and about time, some feathers were riffled, the stupidity has already cost us all a great deal..

It ought to be extremely disturbing to any sensible person to think that trillions of dollars are being misdirected because of policies - now at the heart of all government strategy - based on so called "science" that has such gaping holes in its assumptions. Grifting on an industrial scale, and we are all paying for it.

Can anybody who has actually watched the film in good faith deny that it, and similar views, ought to get a fair hearing in the public domain? To balance out the endless hysteria, talk of "global boiling", and blaming every fire and flood on man made climate change?

 

[transam]

Does it?

What about the huge amount of money fossil fuel interests put into climate change

Well those who oppose it buy a leccy car

Stop flying abroad or going on cruises

Stop eating meat

Give back there pension money that came out of funds that invested in oil companies

Re wild there gardens

Stop using gas for cooking and heating

Stop using copper pipes s d other such materials that are dug out the earth by some one on a dollar a day

Same goes for the rare earth metals used in there phones / computers and other equipment that’s use micro chips

 

[berty3000]

Does it?

What about the huge amount of money fossil fuel interests put into climate change

There are lots of vested interests. Nuclear energy? So called "green" energy? Governments and bureaucracies that crave endless interference? Are we to believe that oil and gas companies are, for some unexplained reason, uniquely malign? And highly acclaimed scientists who are sceptical about "the science" are dishonest and paid off, whilst the those on the other side of the debate are on a higher, more virtuous level? Sounds like confirmation bias...

 

[mitch66]

Ive always believed in Climate change and am sure we do have some impact on it as well as polluting the place badly. I do feel that this issue is being overplayed to generate industry and revenue though. I think the film was pretty balanced and seemed to have genuine evidence to back its claims. Ultimately when nature has had enough of us we're done for anyway.

 

[berty3000]

Why do you think it offers balance

One of the "scientists" in the film Steve Koonin worked for BP

https://www.desmog.com/2023/11/10/f...s-climate-journalists-are-spreading-hysteria/

So? I used to work for Mars and hate chocolate.

Could it be that BP hired a scientist whose expertise would serve them in their technical activities, rather than that they hired somebody - who just happened to be an accomplished specialist in the field - and then caused him to be a paid liar?

Think about it.

 

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Blimey no wonder our council
Tax around here is high had to fund all the council fruit cakes buying leccy company cars
Give em push bikes

And tell em to wear a coat in the winter and they can turn than off there gas boiler

 

[gant]

I can see Notchys going to have trouble with you Berty being able to see both signs of the coin. He pigeon holes everybody and shouts down anybody who steps outside that pigeon hole.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Ive always believed in Climate change and am sure we do have some impact on it as well as polluting the place badly. I do feel that this issue is being overplayed to generate industry and revenue though. I think the film was pretty balanced and seemed to have genuine evidence to back its claims. Ultimately when nature has had enough of us we're done for anyway.

I have never denied climate change, changing has what it has always done, day to day, year-on-year, decade on decade - if you have been around long enough to notice, what I do not accept is that change is man made, or that we can do anything to stop it.

 

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Than you get these massive climate changes conferences were bye thousand of officials and there entourages all fly in on there private jets

To sit around pontificating on saving the planet
Whilst stuffing em selves on caviar
Quails eggs

All the best wines in air conditioned luxury hotels and resorts

Thousands of Kilo watts of leccy used to run all there communication caper

An entire forest of paper used to communicate there waffle

Hypocrits

I recall that James goldsmith building some environmental sustainable housing in some rain forest / jungle setting all very well but they got plagued with mosquitos ( ?) so they called in rento kill ( ?) to spray the area

Than there was some pop group (U2) I think who went to Brazil or some where in support of Brazilian Indians and there environment

Flew in on private jets ? Used more leccy in there concerts than most people would use in there entire life time

 

[noseall]

Can we have some links to your own published research papers on the subject?

Climate change? It's been ratified by some of the best minds in the business. A few fossil fuelled/sponsored quack vids, won't ever change that.

 

[Odds]

They Knew. They Lied.
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Scientists working for Exxon between 1977 and 2003 accurately forecasted the rate at which global average temperatures would rise as a result of carbon emissions, correctly predicted that human-caused global warming would first be detectable by around 2000 and reasonably estimated how much carbon dioxide would lead to dangerous warming, according to the study.

 

[Notch7]

There are lots of vested interests. Nuclear energy? So called "green" energy? Governments and bureaucracies that crave endless interference? Are we to believe that oil and gas companies are, for some unexplained reason, uniquely malign? And highly acclaimed scientists who are sceptical about "the science" are dishonest and paid off, whilst the those on the other side of the debate are on a higher, more virtuous level? Sounds like confirmation bias...

I did not say they were “equally malign”,
I did not say those that support climate change are more virtuous”

Your post is built entirely in setting up a strawman……please try sticking to the facts.



I am glad you understand the term confirmation bias.

here are a bunch of examples of confirmation bias:

1) you started a thread talking about “climate the movie” not once have you questioned who funded the film or what the motivation for the film was.

2) you’ve not made any effort to see if any of the points in the film are correct or truthful

3) you said: “based on so called "science" that has such gaping holes in its assumptions. Grifting on an industrial scale, and we are all paying for it” that is opinion stated as fact, pure confirmation bias

4) you said: “Can anybody who has actually watched the film in good faith deny that it, and similar views, ought to get a fair hearing in the public domain? ” What do you mean “in good faith” are you suggesting the film is in good faith or that we should watch it and not be allowed to question what it claims? That’s confirmation bias