Compulsory jab

[JP_]

How is this different to flu jabs?

Is it compulsory to have a flu jab if you work in a care home?
You should ensure your staff are vaccinated against flu if they are health or social care workers directly involved in patient care.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/increasing-health-and-social-care-worker-flu-vaccinations/social-care/

If you work in care but don't care if you pass flu and coronavirus onto elderly and already unwell people, you're probably in the wrong job.

 

[IT Minion]

How is this different to flu jabs?

Is it compulsory to have a flu jab if you work in a care home?
You should ensure your staff are vaccinated against flu if they are health or social care workers directly involved in patient care.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/increasing-health-and-social-care-worker-flu-vaccinations/social-care/

If you work in care but don't care if you pass flu and coronavirus onto elderly and already unwell people, you're probably in the wrong job.

It is different, as whilst the flu jab is highly recommended for both care and NHS staff, that's not the same as mandatory.

 

[Munroast]

wanting to work in the caring profession whilst being uncareful and uncaring - lol

no jab no job.

 

[JP_]

It is different, as whilst the flu jab is highly recommended for both care and NHS staff, that's not the same as mandatory.

Depends how to define mandatory.

Immunisation of healthcare and laboratory staff
Health and safety at work
Under the Health and Safety at Work Act (HSWA) 1974, employers, employees and the self-employed have specific duties to protect, so far as reasonably practicable, those at work and others who may be affected by their work activity, such as contractors, visitors and patients. Central to health and safety legislation is the need for employers to assess the risks to staff and others.

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Provision of occupational health immunisations

Employers need to be able to demonstrate that an effective employee immunisation programme is in place, and they have an obligation to arrange and pay for this service.
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https://assets.publishing.service.g...nt_data/file/147882/Green-Book-Chapter-12.pdf


OK, it might not be a legal requirement, but it has been in place for at least 47 years. It really is nothing new. Care workers are expected to get vaccinated. Don't want a vaccine? Get a job in a pub.

 

[Mottie]

I was watching an article about this on the news this morning. The care home pulled in a plumbing contractor who was saying that some of his staff weren’t vaccinated so he would have trouble if they needed to carry out work at the care home. Eh? If only some of your staff are vaccinated, they’re the ones to send the care home jobs you dummy! If you needed to do some gas work in a property, you’d send in your gas safe registered employees wouldn’t you? Same applies for unvented hot water - you’d send in a G3 registered bod. Or a qualified electrician to connect up the wiring to the boiler etc. What you wouldn’t do is bemoan the fact that you can’t do a particular job because ALL your staff are not qualified to do it. Idiot! When I had a company convert my system to unvented whilst also fitting a new room stat, controller and motorised valves, they sent their G3 bloke in to do all the pipework and then their electrician came round to connect all the electrics up. When the boiler was changed at a later date, a gas safe bloke did it.

I wonder how this contractor takes on employees - does he take one on then hope he is gas safe or G3 qualified? No, he advertises for those specific qualifications. Perhaps we will see firms that work in care homes demanding that only vaccinated people need apply. Seems only right to me.

 

[Ihavenojob]

If someone was a typhoid carrier and refused to voluntarily not work in the kitchens of a hospital, care home, school etc, what should be done?

If children are unvaccinated against mumps, measles, rubella, or any other communicable diseases for which there is a vaccine for, do yo think they should be unable to come in contact with vulnerable people ?

 

[IT Minion]

If children are unvaccinated against mumps, measles, rubella, or any other communicable diseases for which there is a vaccine for, do yo think they should be unable to come in contact with vulnerable people ?

Are those Children being sent to work in a care home?

 

[JP_]

the sad thing is those diseases are all far more likely to kill an unvaccinated child than an elderly person that has sensibly had their vaccines.

 

[noseall]

As soon as the government realise that sacking hundreds of people willing to do a job that most wont want to do, will lead to acute shortages of staff, they will bin the idea.

Brexers say..."who cares".

 

[noseall]

Being threatened with the sack if you don't have the jab within 16 weeks is equivalent to being forced to have the jab.

Nonsense. Besides, 16 weeks is plenty of time to find another job.

 

[noseall]

Would it then pave the way to make all childhood vaccinations compulsory ?

And that's a bad thing because.?

 

[Mottie]

Brexers say..."who cares".

Not really. Not in the building trade. An acute shortage of staff creates a demand for workers and instead of a glut of available cheap labour driving wages down, the shortage will drive them up which will encourage workers into that trade. Who would want to learn a trade or a skill so they can go out and earn £80 a day? Not many over here but £200+ a day is worth training for. Benefit of Brexit. You're welcome.

 

[Ihavenojob]

And that's a bad thing because.?

It is not a bad thing. just pointing out that if you have compulsory jabs, they should be compulsory for all. not just a few.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Nonsense. Besides, 16 weeks is plenty of time to find another job.

And plenty of time to book a vaccination.