Condensing boiler exemption

[Dan Robinson]

 

[JohnHarrison]

you did not understand it.

 

[DaleRCL]

They won't grant an exemption on that. They will just say you will need to have an electric boiler

 

[D_Hailsham]

I only have the right to walk down the landing, no more.

The lease should also permit you to discharge the boiler fumes onto the landing. If it doesn't, you would be committing a trespass.

Are you saying that the only external wall is the one adjacent to the landing? If not, what's to stop you installing the boiler in another room?

You seem to have just looked at the flow chart in the Exceptions document. You need to complete the Form and work out the points. They are:

710 points, because you have a flat
350 points, if boiler is moved to another room
200 points, if the flue within the flat has to be over 2m long
100 points, if a condensate pump is necessary.

The minimum total points is the determining factor. If this exceeds 1000 points you meet the exception criteria and can install a non-condensing boiler.

Mounting the boiler on the same wall as the existing is not possible for two reasons:

1 The standard flue would discharge under a balcony, or
2. An extended flue would have to pass through an area which you do not own, i.e. the landing.

(The freeholder's views have not been considered)

So, ignoring the flue and condensate pump, you have already 'earned' 710+350 = 1060 points as the boiler will have to be installed in a different room.

Problem solved; a non-condensing boiler is permissible.

 

[vulcancontinental]

And there's only one brand

 

[Dan Robinson]

And there's only one brand

How long is the production run?

 

[JohnHarrison]

And there's only one brand

How long is the production run?

a couple of miles?

 

[vulcancontinental]

If I know them, right up until the last minute

TBH the heating world doesn't stop at the channel, we sell tens if not hundreds of thousands in Europe where they haven't prohibited fitting them till next year.

 

[JohnHarrison]

I only have the right to walk down the landing, no more.

The lease should also permit you to discharge the boiler fumes onto the landing. If it doesn't, you would be committing a trespass.

Are you saying that the only external wall is the one adjacent to the landing? If not, what's to stop you installing the boiler in another room?

You seem to have just looked at the flow chart in the Exceptions document. You need to complete the Form and work out the points. They are:

710 points, because you have a flat
350 points, if boiler is moved to another room
200 points, if the flue within the flat has to be over 2m long
100 points, if a condensate pump is necessary.

The minimum total points is the determining factor. If this exceeds 1000 points you meet the exception criteria and can install a non-condensing boiler.

Mounting the boiler on the same wall as the existing is not possible for two reasons:

1 The standard flue would discharge under a balcony, or
2. An extended flue would have to pass through an area which you do not own, i.e. the landing.

(The freeholder's views have not been considered)

So, ignoring the flue and condensate pump, you have already 'earned' 710+350 = 1060 points as the boiler will have to be installed in a different room.

Problem solved; a non-condensing boiler is permissible.

I CANNOT extend the flue over someone's property. That means I have to move the combi then it reaches 1000. Obvious. They have made it easy to be exempt flats. I clearly saw it as did Mr Hailsham. How come others never? It is so obvious. Now wonder London is full of ugly condensing combi pipes.

Then there is the financial aspect of moving the combi which will make it exempt.

 

[Corgigrouch]

Your current boiler already discharges over someone elses property... He would be well within his rights to deny you the fitting of the new flue at all...

 

[roguetrader]

Someone's personal choice does not give grounds for exemption. Its a law rather than someones personal foley.
Apply at your peril, if anyone comes out, you'll wish you hadn't done it.
If it was me.... I'd just fit one and not say a word.

I was talking an SE boiler, just for goodness sake don't get involved in form filling. It's a pain in the ****

 

[Corgigrouch]

I'm with Roguetrader.... Have an SE boiler fitted and tell no one... Who's to know? Only down side is that if you sell the appt, then your boiler will appear to be older than it really is.....But in really good condition.

You'll die under a mountain of paperwork if you go the exemption route

 

[JohnHarrison]

Someone's personal choice does not give grounds for exemption. Its a law rather than someones personal foley.
Apply at your peril, if anyone comes out, you'll wish you hadn't done it.
If it was me.... I'd just fit one and not say a word.

I was talking an SE boiler, just for goodness sake don't get involved in form filling. It's a pain in the ****

very sensible.

 

[JohnHarrison]

I'm with Roguetrader.... Have an SE boiler fitted and tell no one... Who's to know? Only down side is that if you sell the appt, then your boiler will appear to be older than it really is.....But in really good condition.

You'll die under a mountain of paperwork if you go the exemption route

it is exempt. I would not be breaking any rules. The form looks easy enough.

 

[roguetrader]

The form will be a piece of cake, it's the people coming round to visit before, during and after that could cause the grief.

In fairness, you've had some good advice, granted from both sides of the coin, but still think you know the best route to take, you've only agreed with info you want to hear. No one can see the situation, so best you make your own mind up.
No disrespect but I think you'd made your decision before the first reply.

Best of luck whatever the outcome.