Contraception etc

[dextrous]

I know, I know , but can anyone tell me exactly where in the new testament Jesus actually states that contraceptives are not to be used and abortion is a mortal sin? Someone on here must have a "Dot Cotton" propensity for knowing where in the Bible these things are stated.

 

[ColJack]

it's aluded to in genesis chapter 38.

6 Judah got a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. 7 But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death.

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Lie with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so he put him to death also.

 

[joinerjohn]

Hence where the word Onanism comes from. If ya don't know , look it up in the dictionary.
You'll see how he managed to spill his semen on the ground.

 

[Steve]

he spilled his semen on the ground

I hate doing this. Just doesnt feel like the session is complete.

 

[LastMagicBean]

I'd lay money on it he got a sneaky blowy though.......

 

[Steve]

I'd lay money on it he got a sneaky blowy though.......

Things even the bible wont talk about!!!

 

[oompah]

You'll see how he managed to spill his semen on the ground

When you reach a certain age thats as far as you can fire,so I'm lead to believe

 

[Infidel]

6 Judah got a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. 7 But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death.

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Lie with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so he put him to death also.

What were social services doing, typical

 

[joe-90]

he spilled his semen on the ground

I hate doing this. Just doesnt feel like the session is complete.

W**k into a hanky then.

 

[dave.m]

That Lord seems to have been as big a murdering basket as Shipman.

 

[Homesafe]

it's aluded to in genesis chapter 38.

6 Judah got a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. 7 But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death.

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Lie with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so he put him to death also.

Apparently it gets worse! The scribes who were writing/changing the bible had sick fantasies

 

[Space cat]

can anyone tell me exactly where in the new testament Jesus actually states that contraceptives are not to be used

and

it's aluded to in genesis chapter 38

which was in the Old Testament the last time I looked.

I confess to not paying much attention to RI when I was at school (yes, it was called Religious Instruction in those days) but I don't think Jesus said "Go Forth and Multiply". Wasn't that a Jewish idea?

OK, Jesus was Jewish so he wasn't likely to disagree. Let's face it, there weren't many of us humans about. If one lot said "Go forth and multiply" while another lot said "Two's plenty", you wouldn't have to be Darwin to predict the result!

I'm not sure what forms of contraception existed back then. No doubt most people were smart enough to figure out where babies came from and devise means of making love that minimized the risk of pregnancy - and so virgin births would have happened more often.

I can't remember reading the word "abortion" anywhere in the Bible (though the Romans sometimes did it). I can't imagine Jesus sanctioning the killing of unborn babies - but of course he didn't know what a blastocyst was either.

I think you'll find that whole chunks of Christian (in effect Catholic) doctrine were written centuries after Jesus died. I think they're called penitentials. As usual, politicians searched the Bible looking for rules that suited their purpose and, when they couldn't find what they wanted, they made some up.

 

[Infidel]

I'm not sure what forms of contraception existed back then. No doubt most people were smart enough to figure out where babies came from and devise means of making love that minimized the risk of pregnancy

If I recall my history it was either the rhythm method, or the Greek method.
The latter being referred to in Victorian times as the "tradesmans entrance"

 

[RigidRaider]

And God said to Moses: "Come forth!"

...but Moses came fifth and won a plastic teapot.

 

[Space cat]

And God said to Moses: "Come forth!"

...but Moses came fifth and won a plastic teapot.