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The 'Boy' thought he'd save time carrying one tool - used the Impact driver as a drill with hex shafted drill bits - it lasted 1 hole and then broke up leaving bits ('big' bits) in the hole meaning we had more work to sort out the problem.
As others have said - BUY a DRILL - NOT an impact driver.
yes i understand that
we know its the wrong tool for drilling holes so have never tried it to drill holes so cannot comment other than a well educated but vague guess
i have already said a hammer drill will do everything he wants as a know fact but he seems to think he knows best:D
 
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I dont have an impact driver but a combi and just fixed 1000+ chipboard floor screws and even more drywall ones without a problem.
I would like to get one but although one can feather the trigger I would prefer the ,squeeze the trigger,rattle rattle, release trigger and the screw is in so will delay purchase a while longer.
BTW,
http://toolguyd.com/you-can-use-an-impact-driver-to-drill-holes-but-should-you/

http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-multi-material-impact-driver-drill-bits-set-5-piece-set/4435P?kpid=4435P&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7ZK8k42k1QIVT77tCh31ZAJxEAQYASABEgJs_fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CIPIs5eNpNUCFWIS0wodNGkMGQ
 
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But can you get hex drive drill bits for impact drivers, that'll be a new one on me.
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Milwaukee make a 7/16 impact driver purely for use with hex drive drills and augers.
 

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I have no wish to annoy anyone. I shall be receiving this impact driver on my birthday in just over a week.
I intend to use it for the purposes it is designed for - screws and bolts. However, I may experiment with drill bits in the future just out of interest, and I'd like to thank Sammyinnit for posting that information on drill bits.
I don't suppose anyone is interested but, nevertheless, I'll post again when I've tried the impact driver.
 
I have no wish to annoy anyone. I shall be receiving this impact driver on my birthday in just over a week.
I intend to use it for the purposes it is designed for - screws and bolts. However, I may experiment with drill bits in the future just out of interest, and I'd like to thank Sammyinnit for posting that information on drill bits.
I don't suppose anyone is interested but, nevertheless, I'll post again when I've tried the impact driver.

I use my impact drivers to pilot wood and steel from time to time. I use my trend pilot countersinks with them too. Seems alright.
 
I use my impact drivers to pilot wood and steel from time to time. I use my trend pilot countersinks with them too. Seems alright.
Thanks. Can you tell me where you found those bits for sale? I googled but can't find them.
 
Thanks for Sammy, I had no idea on those.

And you're wrong JBR, I'll be interested to see how you get on. I'm not too old to learn new tricks.
 
Thanks for Sammy, I had no idea on those.

And you're wrong JBR, I'll be interested to see how you get on. I'm not too old to learn new tricks.
Fair enough, but don't hold your breath! As I said, I shall not have the thing until 3rd August, then I'll think about buying some drill bits. I've found a set of 5 Dewalt at Screwfix for £5 but these look like masonry drills which I am certainly not going to use with an impact driver.
The ones that Sammyinnit posted look more like metal or wood drill bits, so I'll keep looking.
 
Thanks. Can you tell me where you found those bits for sale? I googled but can't find them.

Just used those as an example but I've seen dewalt extreme Titanium impact hex sets for sale on eBay.
 
yep i am still learning and would be grateful to know how you get on(y)
after all we can only learn by our own experience and by others sharing there experience;)
 
To summarise, a bit of personal experience.

I'm on my fourth or fifth impact - all trade use. First one was a single speed 12 volt Makita back in the days on NiCd batteries, I've had a few upgrades and I'm now on my second multispeed Makita (a DTD170). Unless you go for a 3-speed or multi-speed impact the torque generated will simply destroy small screws, such as the #6 stainless jobbies used on kickplates, fingerplates, etc. A 3-speed set on the slowest setting will handle those with ease, and without stripping/rounding out - providing you learn to feather the switch. Sorry, but a single-speeder can't achieve this no matter how much you try to feather the switch - if you need to do that a drill is far better. Impact drivers will also shear off the heads of screws when driving into hardwoods such as oak or when fixing through steel plates, etc into timber unless you are very, very careful. It takes some time to master how to do this. Drilling with an impact: the hammer action on an impact cannot be turned off, so forget that - the impact action will eventually twist smaller bits inserted into an impact, a fact of life, so whilst they can be used for pilot drilling the drill bitsm (which, incidentally, are considerably more expensive that brad point twist bits or engineer's twist bits) won't have a long life. A lot of the bits made for impact drills use a steel hex section which is crimped onto a conventional plain shank drill bit - and you can imagine how long they last before the crimp starts to fail - the only solution I've found is to use those Trend Snappy bit holders where a conventional drill bit is held in a sprung holder. The one piece forged steel bits, surely a solution, are hideously expensive and equally prone to premature breakages. Hex drive auger bits work, but the cutting edges take a beating (so need sharpening more often) and above 16mm or so they have a tendency for the shaks to twist and break. The bigger they are, the faster they'll break. It really only leaves speed (flat) bits - and they do seem to survive pretty well on impact drivers (I use Irwins)

All the foregoing means that, as most pro tradesmen know, the impact driver is a spcialist bit of kit ideally suited to driving copious quantities of largr screws very quickly - but not much use otherwise, and certainly not the most useful drill for a DIYer or handyman
 
Can you tell me where you found those bits for sale?

Milwaukee do them too...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/milwaukee+shockwave+hss

Don't buy a cheap set made from Chinesium...

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...you see that rectangular indent, it's just a normal HSS drill bit that has been crimped into the hex holder. I have sheared off a few just drilling wood, using a normal drill driver. An impact will destroy each one, the very first time it impacts!! The Milwaukee and DeWalt drills are a single piece of metal.
 
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Thanks Rsgaz. I can see exactly what you mean and I'll certainly avoid anything like that.
Actually, I'm almost certainly going to use the impact driver exclusively for screws and bolts, including those on car wheels.
I might buy a single one of the Milwaukee drill bits you link to - two or three quid - just to try it and see how well it handles the stresses, but any drilling is definitely going to be of secondary importance only.
 

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