D link wireless router.

[Softus]

Clicking on your image tells me I don't have permission to view your file!

I don't know why that is. I'll ask Admin, but in the meantime...

BTW, the addresses in there already were:

192.168.0.11

255.255.255.0

Weren't they the right addresses anyway?

I wouldn't ever claim that something is correct when it isn't working.

Fault-finding is a process of deduction and changing one thing at time until you have the answer.

 

[securespark]

Thanks Softus!

Your larger image confirms I have done as you suggested.

I have made some progress:

I changed it to "Obtain IP address automatically"

Then I put 192.168.1.1 into the browser & it found the site. So I used their wizard to set up the router.

I haven't tested it yet, but I'm just about to ping it now.


EDIT: Before I pinged, I typed IP config:

 

[securespark]

The IP address in the previous shot is listed as 192.168.1.2.

I'm a bit confused now.

Anyway, I've pinged (or should that be pung?) both addresses:

Oh, and I ran the D-link Install CD Rom again to see what would happen. It still tells me I have not got a proper connection from PC to router, despite the return results from the ping tests....

 

[TonyWarrington]

Hi securespark
Looks like you have probably cracked it - or at least close!

I'd be very surprised if there was an Internet LED on, because you haven't yet configured the router. Tony's advice is bizarre on that point.

You are right my post should have said if configured correctly these lights would be on.

You probably do not need it now but found a couple of links setting up network with Me.
http://www.shsu.edu/~ucs_www/network/setup/windows9598me.pdf
http://www.ust.hk/itsc/ResNet/setup_w98ME.html

EDIT:
I see that your CD installation still says you do not have a proper connection. This may be true or it could be that the CD application does not run correctly as it was designed for another OS. You should not need this installation CD to make your system work.

When you type 192.168.1.1 into your browser what you are doing is connecting to your router. This should open up a configuration page (sorry do not have details of your particular model) to set options in the router - standard password and username "admin". If you get this far you are nearly there!

Are you able now to connect to the net?
If not can you see your network card in Network Connections pages?

 

[Softus]

Thanks Softus!

Your larger image confirms I have done as you suggested.

I have made some progress:

I changed it to "Obtain IP address automatically"

Excellent!

Then I put 192.168.1.1 into the browser & it found the site. So I used their wizard to set up the router.

Double and triple excellent!

I haven't tested it yet, but I'm just about to ping it now.

No need to do that - if the browser can connect then you're nearly home and dry.

I'm a bit confused now.

I don't know why - just get on with configuring the router, then stand back in amazement.

Oh, and I ran the D-link Install CD Rom again to see what would happen.

WTF for?

It still tells me I have not got a proper connection from PC to router, despite the return results from the ping tests....

Apart from anything else, the software on that CD isn't compatible with Windows 98/Me, so goodness only knows what changes it might have made.

You're ignoring my one-change-at-a-time advice.

 

[Softus]

Hi securespark
Looks like you have probably cracked it - or at least close!

I have to admit that this kind of comment irritates me, not least because of its utter and overwhelming pointlessness, but because of what inevitably follows...

You probably do not need it now but found a couple of links setting up network with Me.

That's correct - he doesn't need extra information on network configuration at this point - he needs to configure the router.

Hope its all running ok now

You hope?!

YOU HOPE?!!

YOU HOPE?!!!

How can "hope" make anything work? Of course it isn't running OK - it isn't even running yet. And how can it run "not OK"? Either it runs, or it doesn't run. You were the one leading him down the garden path and into the swamp.

If you can't post accurately, or carry out fault-finding using your mind, a keyboard, and a screen, then please don't post anything, and especially not extraneous information.

 

[securespark]

You're ignoring my one-change-at-a-time advice.

I know, I know.. I really appreciate your advice.

The reason I ran the CD Rom again was purely to see if setting up the router manually had solved the "problem" the set-up sotware saw. It didn't & I don't care!

I'm happy to leave it at that. I'm certain it hasn't changed anything settings-wise.

The reason I said I'm confused is because I wondered why the IP addresses differed, only because I like to try & understand fully how things work.

If the IP address is listed as 192.168.1.1, how come it was listed as 192.168.1.2 when I typed ipconfig?

Ultimately, I know it doesn't really matter, as long as the thing works, but like I say, I'm just trying to get my head round how the system works.

So, to finalise the changeover, what do I have to do now?

 

[Softus]

The reason I said I'm confused is because I wondered why the IP addresses differed, only because I like to try & understand fully how things work.

If the IP address is listed as 192.168.1.1, how come it was listed as 192.168.1.2 when I typed ipconfig?

Your ipconfig output shows that the address allocated to your NIC/PC, by the router, using DHCP, is the one ending in .2, and the one ending in .1 is the address that the router allocates to itself - this (the latter one) is reserved, by convention.

Ultimately, I know it doesn't really matter, as long as the thing works, but like I say, I'm just trying to get my head round how the system works.

The router defines its address as being the gateway address for the purpose of routing, i.e. your PC (using the TCP/IP protocols) send packets intended for the outside world to the gateway address.

BTW, your ipconfig output appears to show that you still have your ADSL modem plugged into the PC. Is this simply because that's how you're connecting to this site?

So, to finalise the changeover, what do I have to do now?

Follow the instructions that came with the router. If you don't have those, look on the CD for a manual (but don't run the software).

If there's no manual, look on the D-Link web site.

If you can't find it there, let me know; I'm sure I can find one.

The instructions should tell you how to enter the ADSL parameters - these include your ISP username and password, so you'll need to know those.

When it's all working I recommend that you save the router settings - most routers have this facility. If you can't find it then let me know. The purpose of this is that if you have to replace the router then you don't need to go through all of the pain again.

 

[securespark]

I think I've completed the connection to the router. I have disconnected the BT connection the old ADSL modem (BT Voyager) and plugged it the cord into the router. It would seem to work, as I am on-line now!

But I don't have what you said I should see in the taskbar: the "screens" icon, which appeared when connecting with the old modem.
Is that important?

And I don't know how to set up the PC to use the router automatically.

EDIT: Just restarted PC & it seems to connect automatically...

Now the next little problem. I want to setup Mrs Secure's PC for internet access, too. The adapter says you should install the software from the CD Rom before plugging in the adapter. But the CD won't work. Will her XP detect the vdevice & do away with the need to install the software D-link supplied?

 

[Softus]

I think I've completed the connection to the router. I have disconnected the BT connection the old ADSL modem (BT Voyager) and plugged it the cord into the router. It would seem to work, as I am on-line now!

Then I agree with you that you've configured it.

But I don't have what you said I should see in the taskbar: the "screens" icon, which appeared when connecting with the old modem.
Is that important?

No. At no point did I say, or imply, that you would see such an icon.

And I don't know how to set up the PC to use the router automatically.

EDIT: Just restarted PC & it seems to connect automatically...

Yup - nice one.

Now the next little problem. I want to setup Mrs Secure's PC for internet access, too. The adapter says you should install the software from the CD Rom before plugging in the adapter. But the CD won't work.

What does it do instead of working?

Will her XP detect the vdevice & do away with the need to install the software D-link supplied?

Is it a D-Link adapter, or are you doing something strange with the CD for the router?

And is it a wired or a wireless adapter?

 

[TonyWarrington]

Hi securespark
Looks like you have probably cracked it - or at least close!

I have to admit that this kind of comment irritates me, not least because of its utter and overwhelming pointlessness, but because of what inevitably follows...

You probably do not need it now but found a couple of links setting up network with Me.

That's correct - he doesn't need extra information on network configuration at this point - he needs to configure the router.

Hope its all running ok now

You hope?!

YOU HOPE?!!

YOU HOPE?!!!

How can "hope" make anything work? Of course it isn't running OK - it isn't even running yet. And how can it run "not OK"? Either it runs, or it doesn't run. You were the one leading him down the garden path and into the swamp.

If you can't post accurately, or carry out fault-finding using your mind, a keyboard, and a screen, then please don't post anything, and especially not extraneous information.

Seems like I rattled your cage.
My comment irritates you, sending pointless/extraneous info irritates you. Even hoping that all ok (i.e. the poster may have found the solution already) irritates you.

Your tone mildly irritates me. Wonder if I have stepped into territory that you consider to be yours only

The poster asked for some opinions on a problem which could be caused by hardware, software or a combination of both. Without access to his system all we can do is offer some pointers on where to look for potential problems and hope (Yes, that word again!) that the information will help him find the solution to his problem.[/b]

 

[Softus]

Seems like I rattled your cage.

How could you be in any doubt?

My comment irritates you

Yes.

sending pointless/extraneous info irritates you. Even hoping that all ok (i.e. the poster may have found the solution already) irritates you.

No, and no.

Your tone mildly irritates me. Wonder if I have stepped into territory that you consider to be yours only

No. My "territory" doesn't include woffling uncontrollably about irrelevant details.

The poster asked for some opinions on a problem which could be caused by hardware, software or a combination of both.

So you claim, but what he actually asked for was "suggestions". Clearly he wanted to get it to work, not chew the cud about your problem with Orange.

Without access to his system all we can do is offer some pointers on where to look for potential problems and hope (Yes, that word again!) that the information will help him find the solution to his problem.[/b]

Wrong. If you read the topic you'll see that he and I quickly resolved the problem, without guesswork, without hoping, without "trying things", and without extra and useless detail.

 

[TonyWarrington]

Softus I am happy for securespark that you "quickly resolved the problem, without guesswork, without hoping etc etc."

I will refrain from making comment on your last post, clearly we have differences here and further discussion would seem pointless.

 

[Softus]

Well, I can respect that, and in time I'll probably come to realise that I've been unnecessarily grumpy about it.

 

[securespark]

The reason I said I'm confused is because I wondered why the IP addresses differed, only because I like to try & understand fully how things work.

Thanks for the explanations.

No. At no point did I say, or imply, that you would see such an icon.

Someone did, not sure who.

CD won't work because it will not go beyond the point at which itr tells me the ethernet cable is not properly attached - I can't seem to run "F" drive and access the CD's contents without running through the set-up procedure.

It is a D-Link wireless adapter.

As her PC is almost rubbing shoulders with mine, can I just run another Cat5e patch cord from another port on the router to her PC? And for that matter to further PC's?

This is not mentioned in the manual. Mrs Secure is happier from a security POV to have hard-wired connections if possible.

Lastly, how does the principle of wireless adapters work? Do they just talk to the router wirelessly?

Do you need any further equipment attached to the LAN ports on the router in order for the wireless adapters to communicate?

If not, what are these ports for? Or are they for hard wiring?