Dementia.
- Thread starter joe-90
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for something like dementia yes, but the poster above sounds like blunt force trauma...
some swelling going on or a bit of damaged tissue etc..
the brain can sometimes rewire itself round small damaged parts.. and sometimes not..
some swelling going on or a bit of damaged tissue etc..
the brain can sometimes rewire itself round small damaged parts.. and sometimes not..
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imamartian
yeah but you're signing up for your euthenasia for the next 20/30/40 years what will happen medically in that time?
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imamartian
yep i agree you don't, but are you an authority on the cutting edge of research and do you have a crystal ball view of development over the next 30 years?
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imamartian
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imamartian
Joe will be fine... it's just the blood rushing away from his brain to another part of his body!!! although that's a lot of blood for a chipolatta !! 
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joinerjohn
Joe will be fine... it's just the blood rushing away from his brain to another part of his body!!! although that's a lot of blood for a chipolatta !!
Very good Martian, but back to the serious stuff.
Went to visit the sister in law in hospital yesterday and she was in loads of pain. Nurses were at a loss to what was wrong,,,,,, until someone noticed the morphine pump/driver was empty. There are instructions on her charts etc to replace this at 4 hr intervals. Apparently it hadn't been replaced for 16hrs,,, and they call this care??. I know that hospital staff are supposedly run off their feet but would not expect this in any hospital these days.
If someone's vet forgot to administer painkillers to their animal, there would be uproar.
How easy it seems to forget the suffering of a fellow human being.
Sadly John, that type of 'neglect' is not uncommon these days. I have experienced/witnessed several incidences over the last few years.
The days when our Health Service was the envy of the world are long gone. Nowadays they probably pay out nearly as much on compensation as on patient care.
As with a lot of other places, there are still too many chiefs and not enough indians.
The days when our Health Service was the envy of the world are long gone. Nowadays they probably pay out nearly as much on compensation as on patient care.
As with a lot of other places, there are still too many chiefs and not enough indians.
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joinerjohn
Have to agree Karinska dear,
I trully believe that any cutbacks in the NHS have got to be from the top down. But that's for another thread at another time.
I trully believe that any cutbacks in the NHS have got to be from the top down. But that's for another thread at another time.
I'm a bit late in joining in with this, but I do agree that a living will would be the way to go - you're making your own decision - with strict conditions about what would be the circumstances in which you should be allowed to die. That way, relatives are not having to make that decision for you.
My friend's sister is dying of cancer - and it's been basically down to neglect. She developed a blood clot, which was treated and was meant to get the scan done three months later to check, but the doctor was on holiday and didn't bother sending for her. Result is that she developed another clot and another clot etc etc, they treated her for clots in her veins but the clots were actually in her arteries ( different form of treatment I believe), which delayed things and when her foot went black with gangrene, they scanned her and realised their mistake. Discovered that the cancer was back and it was that that was causing the clots but it's too late to do anything about it - so now she's just waiting on the inevitable. She's already had one in her brain and is now paralysed down one side, she can't breathe properly because they're on her lungs, she has severe gangrene in her foot and it's spreading and all they're doing is giving her painkillers.
It's heartbreaking. She's fighting hard but it's not going to make any difference to the outcome and hard as it is to say, I think there would come a point when she's so distressed and in pain that the kindest thing would be to allow her to slip away peacefully.
My friend's sister is dying of cancer - and it's been basically down to neglect. She developed a blood clot, which was treated and was meant to get the scan done three months later to check, but the doctor was on holiday and didn't bother sending for her. Result is that she developed another clot and another clot etc etc, they treated her for clots in her veins but the clots were actually in her arteries ( different form of treatment I believe), which delayed things and when her foot went black with gangrene, they scanned her and realised their mistake. Discovered that the cancer was back and it was that that was causing the clots but it's too late to do anything about it - so now she's just waiting on the inevitable. She's already had one in her brain and is now paralysed down one side, she can't breathe properly because they're on her lungs, she has severe gangrene in her foot and it's spreading and all they're doing is giving her painkillers.
It's heartbreaking. She's fighting hard but it's not going to make any difference to the outcome and hard as it is to say, I think there would come a point when she's so distressed and in pain that the kindest thing would be to allow her to slip away peacefully.
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Mickymoody
If you start with some dibillating disease that controls the body, and only eye movement can be expressed, or a person is so lost, that they know nothing of themselves, or their loved ones, but where does it end?
Some 19 year old that lost his first love? Someone that lost a limb, and used to go rock climbing, but they are unable now?
Surely there is no right and wrong?
OK. I got a call late on night. Your brother is in A&E, get there. I'd probably been drinking, and got there in mega time. He was mega smashed up, skull fractured, see the membrane of his brain, legs twisted broken beyond recognition, spine twisted out of joint. He jumped off a motorway bridge, after drinking superstrength lager, that his girlfriends brother had supplied, and they got in an argument.
My parents were in bits, blamed his girlfriend, who was also at his side, and because I comforted her, the family turned against me, but I pulled the surgeon up, literally, by his lapels, and said, you MUST save him. We had our fall outs like any brother do, but do you know why I did that?
Because my older brother had done exactly the same thing years before, and succeeded, and his body was so smashed up, they had to check for DNA to identify the body. So to put my parents through that trauma twice would have killed them.
My younger brother survived, but has had down days, tried to kill himself again, gets very aggressive, due to the trauma, but now goes on skiing holidays, travels the world, goes to college. He has c3/4 injuries, the worst suffered, like Christoper Reeve, superman, otherwise he'd be dead. Would me shouting and threatening the surgeon made a difference? I think I saved my parents that day.
If he took out a policy to die, would my parents live? Did I make the correct decision, to let him go, or face my parents that would never recover?
And that is why when I see nonsense posted in forums, is that some people just don't have an idea, or a picture of the world around them, they see a keyboard, and a screen, and someone to attack, and make feel bad for a few glorious moments.
Some 19 year old that lost his first love? Someone that lost a limb, and used to go rock climbing, but they are unable now?
Surely there is no right and wrong?
OK. I got a call late on night. Your brother is in A&E, get there. I'd probably been drinking, and got there in mega time. He was mega smashed up, skull fractured, see the membrane of his brain, legs twisted broken beyond recognition, spine twisted out of joint. He jumped off a motorway bridge, after drinking superstrength lager, that his girlfriends brother had supplied, and they got in an argument.
My parents were in bits, blamed his girlfriend, who was also at his side, and because I comforted her, the family turned against me, but I pulled the surgeon up, literally, by his lapels, and said, you MUST save him. We had our fall outs like any brother do, but do you know why I did that?
Because my older brother had done exactly the same thing years before, and succeeded, and his body was so smashed up, they had to check for DNA to identify the body. So to put my parents through that trauma twice would have killed them.
My younger brother survived, but has had down days, tried to kill himself again, gets very aggressive, due to the trauma, but now goes on skiing holidays, travels the world, goes to college. He has c3/4 injuries, the worst suffered, like Christoper Reeve, superman, otherwise he'd be dead. Would me shouting and threatening the surgeon made a difference? I think I saved my parents that day.
If he took out a policy to die, would my parents live? Did I make the correct decision, to let him go, or face my parents that would never recover?
And that is why when I see nonsense posted in forums, is that some people just don't have an idea, or a picture of the world around them, they see a keyboard, and a screen, and someone to attack, and make feel bad for a few glorious moments.
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