Dogs (why would you do this?)

[Mottie]

It’s not a new thing. The bloke that installed central heating in our first house in 1984 had his 6 month old baby killed by his dog. It was a Jack Russell.

 

[ellal]

Since you asked

A normally placid dog was so traumatised by the noise of fireworks that she went into panic mode before collapsing and dying. Death due to heart failure.

You have proof of that claim?

 

[Justin Passing]

It’s not a new thing. The bloke that installed central heating in our first house in 1984 had his 6 month old baby killed by his dog. It was a Jack Russell.

Dog and baby together? Never would.

 

[Mottie]

Dog and baby together? Never would.

As far as I can remember, the baby was left alone in a room sleeping in a pram and the dog got in the pram and killed it.

 

[ellal]

The vast majority of dogs are not dangerous at all.

That's absolute b*llux...

A well respected vet and epidemiologist at the University of Liverpool who researches dog-related injuries and deaths said...

“One thing that I would say is that any breed is capable of biting.”

"While larger, strong dogs may have the power to do more damage, Dr Tulloch noted that people have had “very significant injuries from very small dogs”.

 

[ellal]

Dog and baby together? Never would.

The same research Vet also said...

"how important it is not to leave children alone with dogs as a child will not be able to read the warning signs a dog is uncomfortable as well as an adult"

So if as someone has said, "The vast majority of dogs are not dangerous at all"...

Why would others here agree with your post and the views of an expert?

 

[JP_]

Sid

I understand that George Soros absolutely HATES dogs.

I have never liked anyone who doesn't like dogs.

There, said it.

Dogs tend to be better company than most people . Loyal, always pleased to see you, no inane gossiping, don't mind what you watch on tv, will go to any pub with you too.

 

[mattylad]

You have proof of that claim?

Because your incapable of going to google and typing "dog death firewrok" and seeing the number of hits, I have done so.

Here is one of many:

Does Firework Fear really kill dogs? - Vet Help Direct

Another fireworks season has begun, and already we’re seeing reports of dogs being “scared to death” by fireworks. This isn’t an isolated incident either – every year similar reports surface (for example, in 2018, 2017, and 2007). In many cases, this is put down to a “heart attack” or “fright”...

vethelpdirect.com

No it's not the firework that directly kills dogs, it's what it does to them.
I have 2 dogs that refuse to go outside on dark nights and bolt home extremely scared when there are any loud bangs, all since some pillock let a firework off midday and it went right past us.

Anyone that claims that dogs are not harmed by fireworks is an absolute ignorant t.w.@t and a troll.

edit: It's not only dogs that suffer due to fireworks.

Man dies in sea trying to rescue dog after it was ‘spooked by fireworks’

A man has died after jumping into the sea off the coast of Aberdeen while trying to rescue his dog which is believed to have been spooked by fireworks.

www.lbc.co.uk

 

[noseall]

Sid

Dogs tend to be better company than most people

If you like your company mute and subordinate - yes, great choice.

 

[bernardgreen]

You have proof of that claim?

The dog was the family pet of a friend of mine.

 

[Odds]

The girl walking a bunch of dogs was brave enough to tell a couple of horse riders who tried to help to go back. A few of the dogs broke off to chase the horses and they had to ride hard to escape. One of the dogs was an 11 stone Leonberger, which must've been a handful on its own. It appears to've been one of several dog attacks over the weekend and i wonder if it's something in the air: full moon rising, perhaps?

Walking through the village yesterday i saw the most beautiful Afghan hound: pure blonde, and it was hard to imagine it'd ever harm anyone - until it happens.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I think part of the challenge around some of this relates to our rights, as in everyone's rights. Maybe not the best analogy but a bit like the debate on whether people should be allowed to smoke in public. Someone might decide to take their dog for a walk and let it off the lead, let's say in a park. However, when off the lead, not every owner will retain 100% control of their dog, regardless of what they might think. In said park there are other people, families etc, there to enjoy the same space. However, they don't necessarily want a dog bounding up to them. However in reply, dog owners might say 'it's the only chance the dog has to run around and have fun.'

It's one of those debates that will never reach consensus on all sides. Even now, there will be families around the country that have young kids/babies and a so-called dangerous breed dog, and they won't see any issue in that dog being up close and personal with the kids, in some cases even left unattended.

'My Fido would never hurt a fly ...'

And so it goes on.

 

[ellal]

Because your incapable of going to google and typing "dog death firewrok" and seeing the number of hits, I have done so.

Funnily enough in your link...

"Directly, it’s very unlikely – but not impossible. While I’m unaware of any situations where it’s been conclusively demonstrated that a completely healthy dog has died from fear, a dog with a (possibly unrecognised) underlying health condition (such as certain heart conditions) certainly could."

Did you spot the word 'could'?

As for the idiot dying in the sea for a dog, then he's not alone in the Darwin awards department as more than a few owners have done the same thing over the years when their dogs weren't under control!

Do you note those deaths as 'dog related'?

But here's the thing about whether dogs have killed/attacked/injured/terrified people. There's no 'could' about it is there...

It's a proven fact!

 

[Notch7]

It’s not a new thing. The bloke that installed central heating in our first house in 1984 had his 6 month old baby killed by his dog. It was a Jack Russell.

What an awful story, I don’t think parents would get over that.



Jack Russells we’re a working breed and have a high prey drive…..often excellent rat catchers.

When I bought my dog from a breeder, she said she once bred Jack Russell’s but stopped because when they reach 2 years old, some will change and become aggressive.

 

[Brigadier]

I do wonder how many adults, and especially dog owners, have first-hand experience of being bitten (and I mean bitten, not a nip).

I have, and it fugging hurts. A lot.

I had a heavy coat on, and was walking through town. Bloke with alsatian (we called therm that, in the 80's), walking towards me. Dog on lead.

As the dog passed me, it made a full-mouthed grab of my wrist, then let go. One bite.

Owner slapped the dog, then carried on their way as if nothing happened.

I was in a bit of shock, looking back at it. No puncture wounds, so went on my way.

Next day, it was like my arm had been stamped on, or crushed in a vice.. It took days for the aching to subside.

I don't own a dog: I don't have time nor inclination. I like them generally, but would never trust one.