Earth block

[sparkwright]

Couldn't you use a 6 way junction box?

I would use this, or two if some cables too short, too many wires, etc.

Or, if this is too fiddly for you, get a large plastic enclosure and a strip of 15 amp connectors and maybe some 5 amp ones as well. Get some earth sleeving too.

 

[poisonrain]

Thanks for the steer guys. I'd love to get a PIR but money's a bit tight at the mo

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ASJ701.html along with suitably sized terminal strip would be a more standard solution. You'd prefer not to see it on a new installation, but as you have to work with what you've got...

Is a terminal strip different to a connector strip- i.e. each connector is insulated from the next? Would I have to add little loops of wire to connect each one?

Also, as I don't know what the wiring does I need to assume it's mains wiring not lighting and therefore I should go for 30A kit. I think this rules out the 6 way junction box?

PR

 

[RF Lighting]

Don't waste your money on bits you clearly have no idea how to use.

Leave the wiring exactly as it is until you have saved up for an electrician to come out and tidy it up for you.

It should only take him an hour or so, so isn't exactly going to break the bank.

 

[SteNova]

Couldn't you use a 6 way junction box?

he could do but i only see 4 connections!!

 

[SteNova]

Also, as I don't know what the wiring does I need to assume it's mains wiring not lighting and therefore I should go for 30A kit. I think this rules out the 6 way junction box?

PR

haven't you followed any of the wires?

 

[sparkwright]

Thanks for the steer guys. I'd love to get a PIR but money's a bit tight at the mo

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ASJ701.html along with suitably sized terminal strip would be a more standard solution. You'd prefer not to see it on a new installation, but as you have to work with what you've got...

Is a terminal strip different to a connector strip- i.e. each connector is insulated from the next? Would I have to add little loops of wire to connect each one?

Also, as I don't know what the wiring does I need to assume it's mains wiring not lighting and therefore I should go for 30A kit. I think this rules out the 6 way junction box?

PR

Far as I'm concerned terminal strip is connector strip - that's individual connectors insulated from the next.

As far as I can tell that's lighting wiring. If it is you should get five wires in one 15 amp connector. Or ten wires if you use both ends of the connector.

Tempting as it is to put 1 mm2 lighting cables into the even larger 30 amp connectors sometimes some of the wires don't get clamped down as they are thin - and the wire slips out.

 

[sparkwright]

Couldn't you use a 6 way junction box?

he could do but i only see 4 connections!!

I see 5.

 

[SteNova]

Couldn't you use a 6 way junction box?

he could do but i only see 4 connections!!

I see 5.

goes back to look also asks for a diagram from the OP

 

[poisonrain]

haven't you followed any of the wires?

I think they're lighting, certainly one or two are, but I haven't followed them all. And given the state of this (and how the rest of the house was) I don't really want to rely on that :-/

PR

 

[poisonrain]

[quote="SteNova";p="2243572]goes back to look also asks for a diagram from the OP[/quote]

This is the best I can do...
green is the earths
the numbers are the separate complete (3core) cables
and the dots are where they join.

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• poisonrain
• 4 Jan 2012
• 1

Hope this helps.
PR

 

[RF Lighting]

Hell's teeth

 

[SteNova]

Hell's teeth

can i have the first guess?
1 lighting radial
2 lighting radial
3 light 1
4 light 2
5 switch 3
6 light 3
7 switch 1
8 switch 2

at least everything looks to have an earth

i'm no spark but if it was me i'd be keeping it simple and fitting three 4 terminal junction boxes one for each light

 

[sparkwright]

[quote="SteNova";p="2243572]goes back to look also asks for a diagram from the OP

This is the best I can do...
green is the earths
the numbers are the separate complete (3core) cables
and the dots are where they join.

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• poisonrain
• 4 Jan 2012
• 1

Hope this helps.
PR[/quote]

Essentially that's quite normal. That lot appears to be the switching of three lights. It was quite usual to wire all or some of the lights in one big junction box.

Only you have it without the box.

 

[RF Lighting]

And you need an electrician to pop it all into one for you.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Hell's teeth

Could be worse...

just found this on another forum, that is one hell of a junction box.

apparently it is in the loft of a french house

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• Sureitsoff?
• 2 Feb 2010
• 2

Maybe you could sell him your old Octopus...