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[carmanmemoranda]

403 - Forbidden

403 - Forbidden

www.thomsonreuters.com

The link that won't open(wonder why)says since 1990 over 50,000 eu laws have been passed that now need unravelling.
That's a foreign power in my eyes.

They are not eu laws. They are uk laws

What is it you don't understand?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Putin?

A lot of Russian money and influence around our government, alledgedly

 

[noseall]

They think we are a joke.

True dat. Europeans chuckle at UK politics and Brexit in particular.

 

[ellal]

what is between Netherlands and UK ?

An ocean of red tape and costs!

Meanwhile...

Kent apple farmers forced to dig up orchards over financial losses


"Fruit grower Richard Budd, from Marden, has removed 50 acres (20 hectares) of apple trees from his land.
He said the UK's food security was "increasingly under threat" as orchards disappear and future buyers will need foreign importers.

The industry is on a "knife edge", according to British Apples & Pears Limited (BAPL).

Apples are being left to rot in the fields while issues with shortages, which could last until May, affect supermarkets in the UK."

 

[Deleted member 18243]

We've had Brexit since 2016 yet the tomato shortage has only been this last couple of weeks, so why has the shortage happened only now?

what is between Netherlands and UK ?

The channel is no barrier for your beloved fake refugees and nor do you want it to be, so why are you invoking it for tomatoes?

Yes, I'm really looking forward to working without the right to sick pay, holiday pay, paternity pay, plus the right to refuse to work more than 48 hours a week. It will also be so liberating not to have my employers constrained by health and safety laws.

Britain gave freedom and the Rights of Man to the rest of the world, including Europe - not the other way round.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Andy, if you don't understand why that short distance of channel now complicates imports, then did you understand what brexit was about !

if you are a grower or logistics company supplying tomatoes and there is a shortage, would you concentrate on the local, and easy paperwork and logistics routes, or go for the difficult, time consuming and expensive ones !

 

[gant]

Yes, I'm really looking forward to working without the right to sick pay, holiday pay, paternity pay, plus the right to refuse to work more than 48 hours a week. It will also be so liberating not to have my employers constrained by health and safety laws. After all what are a few thousand extra industrial deaths a year? Then there's all the money the water companies can save by simply dumping untreated effluent into rivers and waterways - way more than the half-hearted efforts they are making now. Better buy myself some shares before they are all gone

But you can't tell the thicker Brexiteers that these are our laws, too. Laws designed to protect us. I do wonder if "Brexiteerism" should be classed as a cult, it's members rounded up and sent somewhere for their own (and our) safety - like Rockall

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Why can't I understand all that ?
I keep asked about eu laws affect me, it's patently obvious that these laws in the round affect how a countries run and our parliament rubber stamped. It's your critical thinking thick remainer mates who seem to think we weren't taking eu laws on board.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Why can't I understand all that ?

that's the issue really

 

[gant]

Britain gave freedom and the Rights of Man to the rest of the world, including Europe - not the other way round.

You do wonder sometimes if they know anything about the history of factories acts and the like.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

We've had Brexit since 2016...

Nope. We've had Brexit since 2020, since which time things have steadily gotten worse... I've been seeing shortage in shops for a few years (especially fruit, veg and meat), plus the ever shortening best before dates on many fresh foods

The channel is no barrier, and nor do you want it to be, for your beloved fake refugees. Why are you invoking it for tomatoes?

Because the refugees don't have to employ a driver to sit unproductively in queues at Ashford when they leave the the country? And refugees don't need masses of paperwork to enter the country in the first place - unlike tomatoes

Britain gave freedom and the Rights of Man to the rest of the world, including Europe - not the other way round.

Then elected a bunch of self seeking, lying cheating, conniving tax fiddlers who took many if those rights away from every man, woman and child in this country - and seek to take many more rights away from us with the Retained EU Laws bill

 

[ellal]

We've had Brexit since 2016 yet the tomato shortage has only been this last couple of weeks, so why has the shortage happened only now?


The channel is no barrier, and nor do you want it to be, for your beloved fake refugees. Why are you invoking it for tomatoes?

That's got to be one of the dumbest posts so far...

Brexit actually happened on Brexit day on 31 January 2020 (when the United Kingdom ceased to be a member state of the European Union), and on to 1 January 2021, the end of the transition period.
(But then brexiteers aren't exactly known for their grasp of numbers/dates/reality!)

As for tomatoes, it is the UK that brought about the problem because it petulantly left the single market...

PSML at

Britain gave freedom and the Rights of Man to the rest of the world, including Europe

Empire, illegal wars, imposed governments...

And now the UK wants to remove Human rights legislation and hard fought for worker/civil rights...

Brexiteers truly are the dumbest of the dumb!

 

[gant]

that's the issue really

So no acknowledgment of that big rubber stamper they have at Westminster.
Bit like how you swerved are MEPs as useful as rocking horse sh*t.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So no acknowledgment of that big rubber stamper they have a Westminster.
Bit like how you swerved are MEPs as useful as rocking horse sh*t.

The swerve was and still is, from you.

This foreign power ruling us. Just a gut feeling, no proof yet?

We were involved in the Eu and the laws. Whether you like your mp or not, apparently you have an easy way of changing him or her

 

[gant]

The swerve was and still is, from you.

This foreign power ruling us. Just a gut feeling, no proof yet?

We were involved in the Eu and the laws. Whether you like your mp or not, apparently you have an easy way of changing him or her

All irrelevant if it's in my eyes.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

This foreign power ruling us. Just a gut feeling, no proof yet?

Watch out! He may have proof positive that the Tories really are in the pay of the Kremlin