Floorboard rennovation questions

On checking, I see a similar board was introduced in the 1930's, and wartime prefabs were built with asbestos-cement boards (which are different)

it just seems an odd choice to me in your case.

Some of the old builders will know.

It’s not quite how I remembered. This is it.

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I just don’t think really know what it is and what it’s there for and if it’s not asbestos or a fire retardant, what is it?

doesn’t look like the typical asbestos board I’ve seen in pics.
 
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I can see them, but I don't know what it is.

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Maybe they used it as shuttering to cast the concrete slab.
 
spray some water on it and see what colour it goes.

slate is very smooth on the split faces, but the edges are sawn.
 
spray some water on it and see what colour it goes.

slate is very smooth on the split faces, but the edges are sawn.

here’s a pic. I sprayed a LOT of water on it, seems like it is slate.

against my better judgement (it’s so wet I can’t see how fibres could get airborne anyway) I tapped it lightly with a screwdriver. It’s hard, I would say the same as tapping brick.

not asbestos board right? That would be softer and wouldn’t make a tapping sound from a screwdriver?
 

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Asbestolux in 1939? Earlier than I'd have thought.

photos would be useful.
They started using asbestos sheet in construction about the end of the 19th century, commonly used in council buildings (houses, schools, offices es, etc) from the early 1930s onwards. Was widely regarded at the time as a miracle material - but then the Edwardians put radium in makeup and drinks....

Lot of Asbestolux was put in as retrofit in the 50s and on. Just because the house was built in 1939 doesn't make everything original

OP: asbestos is fairly soft, cement asbestos is hard and brittle
 
They started using asbestos sheet in construction about the end of the 19th century, commonly used in council buildings (houses, schools, offices es, etc) from the early 1930s onwards. Was widely regarded at the time as a miracle material - but then the Edwardians put radium in makeup and drinks....

Lot of Asbestolux was put in as retrofit in the 50s and on. Just because the house was built in 1939 doesn't make everything original

OP: asbestos is fairly soft, cement asbestos is hard and brittle

well, see pic, it went slate coloured when wet and tapped like slate would....think it’s safe to say it’s slate? It’s almost black when wet, I thought AIB is white, I had it in parent home and it’s like a kind Half plasterboard half mineral fibre look to it....

There was a faux fireplace before. It was made of brick and cement. I’d estimate 70s or 80s. The Mortar was standard grey compo type you see everywhere. I did wonder after if it had asbestos in it but this was after I spent 2 days chiselling it out. It didn’t break up into dust anyway....I didn’t immediately think it would be asbestos plaster cement as it’s faux - there was a gas fire in there, perhaps it may have been 2% chrysolite but hey, too late now! I’ve done it.

the asbestos cement I’ve seen is kind of so brittle you can almost crush it with your hand - is that what you mean? If so, this sheet doesn’t look like that - you mean the stuff pipes were made of right?
 
is it safe to pull up the floorboard to look with my child in the house? It won’t disturb it but I am worried it may pull a cloud of dust up or let fibres in.
Yes. In a house which had coal fires you'll possibly disturb a bit of soot and lime plaster/mortar dust, that's all.

You don't get much asbestos used in mortar, nor in plaster, fortunately. If it were common I'm sure I'd be dead by now! Asbestos cement was made in sheets (flat and corrugated) and pipe form - grey to white in colour. Pure asbestos sheet is generally white - it was often found as boiler lagging and in airing cupboards in older council properties, although these days most of it has been removed
 
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Yes. In a house which had coal fires you'll possibly disturb a bit of soot and lime plaster/mortar dust, that's all.

You don't get much asbestos used in mortar, nor in plaster, fortunately. If it were common I'm sure I'd be dead by now! Asbestos cement was made in sheets (flat and corrugated) and pipe form - grey to white in colour. Pure asbestos sheet is generally white - it was often found as boiler lagging and in airing cupboards in older council properties, although these days most of it has been removed

haha, I found out recently about those old garage roofs being asbestos - I fell through about 5 of them as a kid larking around, hey Ho!

asbestos isn’t great but I tend to freak out if I think I have it in the house. It’s the kids mainly, I can assess the risk but they can’t make those judgements.

I grew up in a house built in 1969, it had a dry air blower central heating system, we took it out in about 2000 and I carried chunks of asbestos out, my dad wetted it down etc and cut it with no clouds...it was everywhere and in everything in that house. Parents still there, still alive, still good health, still smoking! Tendancy to overstate the risk, it’s just not nice thinking my one year old breathing that in!

I used to visit an old run down factory back in the day, full of it. Thankfully it was so wet in there that may be the saving grace.

Anyway, not sure how this got from a wood floor to asbestos management but thanks for your help, and to all the others. This forum is a godsend for me and I’m very thankful for the old hands helping me out - one day I’ll hope to do the same for others
 
Whatever you use, you will be crawling under the floor.

your ground floor is pretty sure to be exactly the same size as your loft.

100mm loft rolls will be fine. 170 or 200mm will bring little extra advantage, but use whatever you can find cheap. your joints will probably be around 7" deep.

you will not have to "seal gaps from the top" with quilt because, unlike rigid boards, it does not leave gaps for draughts.


Here’s another question to you or anyone else who’s interested.

I was of the understanding that ground floors, if you want bare boards you need to insulate under the floor.

now if there is little convection or conduction, and it’s all about draughts, why not just fill everything from the top diligently. I can use sawdust/pva/noggins etc and just block it all up then sand and varnish. This seems easier, and filling the gaps should make it look better.

the advice is very much to insulate a ground suspended floor. If I can just block it all from the top, is there any need to get up under - or is putting loft roll under just a better and more effective method with some added conduction/noise reduction benefits?
 

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