Following the Rules (the CV lock down)

[motorbiking]

Its actually the 85th%ile not the 50th%ile. But it's sound. and unrelated to my statement.
The above basically says choose a speed much faster than the speed the avg person chooses to drive and your risk increases. It also increases if you choose a speed much slower (but not by the same amount).

That has nothing to do with predicting impact speed from free traveling speed. 80% of people hit at 40 will die, only 3% of people hit in a 40 limit road die. How come? if impact speed and free travelling speed are linked so closely?

Edit : where did you get your infection rates from?

 

[motorbiking]

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[durhamplumber]

Its actually the 85th%ile not the 50th%ile. But it's sound. and unrelated to my statement.
The above basically says choose a speed much faster than the speed the avg person chooses to drive and your risk increases. It also increases if you choose a speed much slower (but not by the same amount).

That has nothing to do with predicting impact speed from free traveling speed. 80% of people hit at 40 will die, only 3% of people hit in a 40 limit road die. How come? if impact speed and free travelling speed are linked so closely?

Edit : where did you get your infection rates from?

The BBC ...might be slightly out,,,but certainly slightly..not orders of magnitude out...and your speed argument....faster speed is more dangerous and more risk of death,,,whatever argument you find to the contrary....unless you sticking in some statistic about people doing 10mph up the motorway causing accidents.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Most people should be at home

More accidents happen at home than anywhere else.

 

[durhamplumber]

how is it a strawman? accidents can cause injury, the higher speed of impact the more likely the seriousness of the injury and the more likely the need to involve the NHS

the question here would be, chance of injury by driving a couple of miles as opposed to the chance catching CV by walking along a busy path. I would rather chose the former.

You are way of the point...The reasons for staying near home at present are numerous,,you focusing your microscope on one small argument.

 

[motorbiking]

volume of traffic is key. But I'm already bored with this diversion.

It makes sense that the more you travel the greater the exposure to other people and surfaces with the virus.

 

[Notch7]

You are way of the point...The reasons for staying near home at present are numerous,,you focusing your microscope on one small argument.

The best and surest way to avoid CV is to stay at home.

One persom driving a car to a beauty spot isnt in itself likely to increase risk of infection, but its the age old problem, if one person can do it, then everybody can......and then there is an increased risk of infection and an increase in emergency services.

 

[Ryler]

My work colleague rang in sick this morning. Says he thinks its just a cold.
A few days ago he sneezed into my face.

 

[durhamplumber]

My work colleague rang in sick this morning. Says he thinks its just a cold.
A few days ago he sneezed into my face.

You might catch cold of him then....what a snowflake he is....off work with cold

 

[transam]

Push biking should be banned un till. This chinese flu caper is over

Peddling around in the open puffing and blowing spreading this virus all over the place

Plus the fact some of them blokes dressed up in all. That lycra kit are an embarrassment Jeez us do they actually look at them selves in the mirror prior to going out in public

 

[Munroast]

More accidents happen at home than anywhere else.

thats true and the biggest culprit are these DIY clowns, they're going to be out in force chopping there fingers off and dropping stuff on their toes

DIY needs banned.

 

[fillyboy]

thats true and the biggest culprit are these DIY clowns, they're going to be out in force chopping there fingers off and dropping stuff on their toes

DIY needs banned.

Actually, the big sheds, B & Q, Homebase etc were on their knees because DIY is becoming a thing of the past. There are some of the younger generation who are interested, practically minded and want to do things and save money, but the majority don't have a clue. No disrespect to them for that, they probably lean more toward IT and the like but I guess my generation were 'make do and mend', did woodwork or metalwork at school rather than cookery.
Might even be genetics involved, I've worked with youngsters and found it very difficult to teach them, others, show them something once and they are there, they can do it, their hands become one with whatever tool they're using, almost like they were born to do it. My nephew, who used to do a few days for me is an example, I taught him to plaster among other things, he later trained as a chippy but he loves doing it, and has a natural skillset.

 

[Munroast]

I don't think I got into DIY by choice, it was something I needed to do to make ends meet when first married. I will do stuff now for the challenge and pleasure but with life so much easier in recent years I understand why young-uns can't be arsed.

Thing may change big time when the economy collapses at the end of this horrible virus thing. Times will be hard and in a 'needs-must' way, younger generations will just have to learn.

 

[motorbiking]

I think its also availability of housing.. I bought my first home when I was 23, I bought my current house when I was 28. Spent 3 years rewiring, re-plumbing and renovating the place. Learning from scratch. If you are living in a rented pad, there isn't much point.

 

[Mottie]

I think its also availability of housing.. I bought my first home when I was 23, I bought my current house when I was 28. Spent 3 years rewiring, re-plumbing and renovating the place.

Same here. Bought my first house at 27 and it was a complete wreck. Absolutely everything needed doing- floors, joists, ceilings, walls, wiring, plumbing, kitchen, bathroom, heating, roofing, windows. We lived upstairs for a whole year whilst renovating the whole of the downstairs - wasn’t even any floorboards in most of the rooms. Apart from the heating, I did everything myself although I had Some help from mates who were builders, plasterers and electricians but even when they helped I did all the donkey work and learned from them. Of course, I fixed their cars in return. Apart from our bed, everything was secondhand - carpets, 3 piece suite, curtains, cooker, TV etc. Now-days, because vocational training is no longer taught in schools, most youngsters wouldn't know which end of a hammer to hold and wouldn’t consider a secondhand car let alone secondhand household items!