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joe-90 said:
Does anyone want to know what I think on the subject? No?
Yes, I do 'cos I don't know the answer, do you or think you have the answer?
 
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masona said:
splinter said:
noI do not blame them for coming here ,BUt what is the answer for me .
I will have to clash with you and everyone else that thinks imergration into this country is alright ,because it does not affect them finacially,but at the end of the day it is seriously affecting me and my family ,,so what amI to do
You are not alone, I can see within the next few years we'll all be on minimum wages the way it's going. We seem to be overpaid for what we do now. I've noticed employees are now getting laid off in thousands, boom & busts is begining to bite now specially with the high tax policies and generally believe this is what Labour wants otherwise why would they do it?
Thats the thing people think we are overpaid and they all think we all earn£50.000a year butwe don;tand no holiday pay ,no sick pay and no pension , so next time you get a spark or a carpenter around you're house give himn a a cup of tea .He/she will proball;y need it :)
 
joe-90 said:
Does anyone want to know what I think on the subject? No? Well i won't bother then,


joe

Give it a go JOE

Lets keep this one open if we can
 
Well I think that the situation will eventually lead to serious social/racial problems. At the moment it is only the second year that overseas workers have been able to work here as the wish. It was estimated that 13,000 per year would take up the oportunity but so far it has been 130,000 per year. Most of them seem to be in the building trade. Go to any B&Q and English is the second language amonst workers in overalls and the lead language seems to be Polish.

I've got nothing against them, but they are taking work away from our own people. They and their family have contibuted nothing to this country over the centuries yet thay can wander in at will and stake their claim. After a year in work they can claim dole money, free health, free teeth, council house etc - yet they have contributed zero to the pot.
If we really need them we should give them temporary work permits. If they contribute for ten years - then fine - they have paid their dues.

The situation is, that there are now more people in work than at any time in history - yet unemployment is rising. This clearly means that Brits are being displaced by Europeans.

At the moment the economy is buoyant, it's not a HUGE problem. However, economies don't boom for ever and when the inevitable bust comes along and people are losing their jobs and houses then all hell will break loose.
Mr Polski thinks the minimum wage is a fortune - he's more than happy with it. They are now getting in to CORGI - earning more in an hour than they earned in a week at home.

Now I don't agree with what the BNP stand for - but I hope they do well in the elections just to give the main parties one hell of a kick up the jacksy.


joe
 
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I agreed what you're saying up to the point but what's your answer?
 
joe-90 said:
After a year in work they can claim dole money, free health, free teeth, council house etc - yet they have contributed zero to the pot.

Make your mind up, if they are working at B&Q they are paying more towards "the pot" in tax and NI than someone who is living on the dole. I know who I would rather get rid of.
 
hermes said:
joe-90 said:
After a year in work they can claim dole money, free health, free teeth, council house etc - yet they have contributed zero to the pot.

Make your mind up, if they are working at B&Q they are paying more towards "the pot" in tax and NI than someone who is living on the dole. I know who I would rather get rid of.
Spot on.
 
masona said:
I agreed what you're saying up to the point but what's your answer?


There is no answer until there is civil unrest and the European Union falls apart.

In the last couple of years a dozen poor nations joined Europe as full members. It's not rocket science to figure that if the rich nations (UK) support the poor nations (Poland, Latvia etc) that they will become richer and we will become poorer.

The only answer is to get out of Europe.


joe
 
hermes said:
joe-90 said:
After a year in work they can claim dole money, free health, free teeth, council house etc - yet they have contributed zero to the pot.

Make your mind up, if they are working at B&Q they are paying more towards "the pot" in tax and NI than someone who is living on the dole. I know who I would rather get rid of.

I didn't say they worked at B&Q. Read what I write - not what you THINK I write.

The people in B&Q (Poles in overalls) are working the black economy.


joe
 
Supposing you was born in Poland, would you do the same coming over to the UK?
 
JoE~90 ,
what can I say I have never read such a liveliver reply in my life WE or i should say I am going down the pan .so I don't exsprect it will affect the likes of you and BAS as you can just sit on you're big fat pensions and not realy worry about jack ****,just sit there and tell me how I should do this ,do that ,and you don't have a care in the worldddd :?:
 
masona said:
Supposing you was born in Poland, would you do the same coming over to the UK?

Of course I would. I've nothing against the Poles - just the system that allows all and sundry in to benefit from what our forefathers left us. If they don't like what their forefathers left them - tough - let them take it up with them.


joe
 
splinter said:
JoE~90 ,
what can I say I have never read such a liveliver reply in my life WE or i should say I am going down the pan .so I don't exsprect it will affect the likes of you and BAS as you can just sit on you're big fat pensions and not realy worry about jack s**t,just sit there and tell me how I should do this ,do that ,and you don't have a care in the worldddd :?:


I don't have a pension. We have put our money into property. We buy, renovate and sell. I also make a grand a week on other building work.

The work's out there if you want to it.


joe
 
joe-90 said:
Well I think that the situation will eventually lead to serious social/racial problems. At the moment it is only the second year that overseas workers have been able to work here as the wish. It was estimated that 13,000 per year would take up the oportunity but so far it has been 130,000 per year. Most of them seem to be in the building trade. Go to any B&Q and English is the second language amonst workers in overalls and the lead language seems to be Polish.

I've got nothing against them, but they are taking work away from our own people. They and their family have contibuted nothing to this country over the centuries yet thay can wander in at will and stake their claim. After a year in work they can claim dole money, free health, free teeth, council house etc - yet they have contributed zero to the pot.
If we really need them we should give them temporary work permits. If they contribute for ten years - then fine - they have paid their dues.

The situation is, that there are now more people in work than at any time in history - yet unemployment is rising. This clearly means that Brits are being displaced by Europeans.

At the moment the economy is buoyant, it's not a HUGE problem. However, economies don't boom for ever and when the inevitable bust comes along and people are losing their jobs and houses then all hell will break loose.
Mr Polski thinks the minimum wage is a fortune - he's more than happy with it. They are now getting in to CORGI - earning more in an hour than they earned in a week at home.

Now I don't agree with what the BNP stand for - but I hope they do well in the elections just to give the main parties one hell of a kick up the jacksy.


joe


Interesting stormfronty type theory Joe.

There is a labour shortage in this country, no one wants to do the kind of jobs that immigrant workers do. There is no queue at the dole office for jobs in low paid repetitve work in food factories or cleaning jobs and such like which is what the majority do

You say that all hell will break loose in the next recession but there is no historical precedent for this. When there was mass immigration into the uk in the 50's the economy was also bouyant. the recessions that followed it didn't lead to mass social or racial problems even when there were 3 million unemployed and whole industries, rail freight, coal, steel, textiles etc were collapsing en mass. When problems did come Brixton, Toxteth, Broadwater farm etc they were caused by second generation immigrants who felt persecuted by the police and had nothing much to do with jobs.

There was no white riot, except in Notting Hill in the late 50's when white youths attacked blacks (for doing the jobs they didn't want) and that was over in 2 days

Why would a recession be any different this time. the most likely outcome would be that all the immigrant workers would go. With modern open borders economic migrants will just do the logical thing which is pack up and go where the work is
 
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