Enough, ENOUGH! You win............we're all bored sh*tless now.
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Thanks sooey, that was the idea, it worked! 
feck me, if you weren't made out of the same energy as that of God, I could have mutilated you! only God saved you!
feck me, if you weren't made out of the same energy as that of God, I could have mutilated you! only God saved you!
You raise a good point, Mike.
If a believer 'asks God' for something and whatever it is comes about, that reinforces his belief, even more so it it happens more than once.
The fact that it could simply be coincidence doesn't seem to enter into it.
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Prove itThanks sooey, that was the idea, it worked!
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I once gave an example when I bought my first Meade XT 125 telescope, and i could not wait to try it out, but the weather was so dull and skies full of clouds, I waited the first day, skies still dull and cloudy, 2nd day the same, my patient was running out, on 3rd day sky was still very patchy and dull so as if nothing to lose, I prayed and asked Lord Jesus to clear up skies, I had already set up my telescope and powered it up and aligned it up, and every now and then a small clear patch would pass and i could see one star my telescope was pointing at, and seconds later it would cloud over, wife came out to call me that my tea is getting cold, I went in leaving my telescope running, finished my tea in 5 minutes, went back out and was pleasantly surprised that the western part of the skies was completely cleared up, as if someone had waved a magic wand, and there was a straight line running between the west part of the sky and the eastern part, my scope was set to watch western part as I could not have observed much along the eastern part due to a sycamore tree, so I was so happy and was testing my new toy, putting it through its paces, observing as many stars and clusters ! I really was over the moon!
Then as I zoomed and spanned between various stars and clusters, I was getting tired now, and wife came out again and said she has made me another tea and I went inside to have it, five minutes later i came out again and the whole sky was now covered in clouds, by now I had enough and was tired as well, and content with having played my new toy, observed most prominent stars and clusters so I packed it up,
So was this coincidence? , where the sky had a clear division the western side side totally cleared up and eastern side remained cloudy and straight line ran from north to south, almost like a ruler straight. If I had not asked lord Jesus and clouds cleared up on their own, then I might have said it was just a coincidence and that clouds moved over, but they were back in full!
When I told my religious aunt about my experience, she condemned my actions, said to me that i should not have asked Lord Jesus for this as such actions disrupt lives of other things as it is for a purpose that the clouds are there for. there are lots of other examples which I won't go into now, too much to write and it bores people, because they don't believe in this spiritual intervention.
Prove itThanks sooey, that was the idea, it worked!
I am not a scientist, I can't prove that the energy Sooey is made of is not that of God himself, there are no instruments that can prove that or your energy is different to his and mine.
They do, and in patches, this was no ordinary incident, I know, I had never seen anything like this before or even since, this was not a large clear patch that lasted a good hour, it was as if not a single cloud was there in the western hemisphere and the Eastern horizon was totally clouded and the division stayed there for all that time. almost like a straight line, I remember that day as I was extremely disappointed with the weather, I was infact cursing the clouds why for 3 days there hadn't been any clear skies, so after I went to have my tea, I came out and was pleasantly surprised, but as I had my new toy, it took most of my thoughts away from the fact it was more like a miracle, and I remember praying and hoping it wasn't just a clear patch that might move away in a few minutes, but totally clear sky and lasted well over an hour and I actually got pretty sick and tired of observing and trying out my new telescope, so just as I was contemplating packing it up when the wife called me to have another cuppa, so after drinking my tea that must have taken me around 10minutes , came out again and the sky was fully covered in clouds, yes I am a heavy tea drinker, drink tea every hour or so.
BTW, I am not promoting any religion, or Christianity, this experience and many others have convinced me that there is something out there and I just cannot bring myself to ignore it, or dismiss it, until solidly proven that God never existed, which i am pretty sure he always has and always will prevail, one has to realise his existence, no one is going to be able to see him with a telescope! so indeed I have my faith in Lord Jesus, I came to know about him through various sources, and I never doubted he was a saint man or God sent person. Christians believe he is son of God, I don't have any quibble with that. the fact I was not even born in a Christian faith. If this was a coincidence, then there are far too many such like incidents in my life, you cannot have too many coincidences, so this reinforces my faith in Jesus, and who knows that I might actually become a Christian. Which can't be bad
after all, considering what other religions have to offer, some don't seem to be very user friendly and bent on promoting terror. I rather not belong or join a religion that segregates between believers and non believers. Amen!
So not the Christians after all!
Seems a bit of a frivolous waste of a prayer though, clearing a few clouds; when you could have asked God for - I don't know, something like an end to leukaemia in children ?
Mind you, it's nice to know he listened to you rather those annoying parents who must be badgering him all day down the cancer wards.
I now only use prayers when there is a real necessity, a bit like using a veto power, only for extreme distress, perhaps when I am drowning, I might ask for divine intervention and who knows life guards may rescue me instead of finding my floating body.
As for origin of life on earth, scientist speculate the existence of molecules that preceded genetic make up as we know it today, these molecules are supposedly mushroomed spontaneously from an inert matter, and were self replicating, yet there is no evidence of such molecules ever existed, nor have scientist been able to create any such molecules in labs.
living cells are unique the way they store and process and execute information stored within their genetic make up (DNA) and yet Evolution cannot explain the origin (source) of this genetic make up.
Protein molecules are necessary for the functioning of a cell, a typical protein molecule has hundreds of amino acids strung together in a specific sequence, further more this protein molecule must fold into a specific three dimensional helix or shape, to be useful, and many scientist now conclude that the odds of even one protein molecule forming spontaneously is extremely improbable, since a functioning cell requires thousands of different proteins which is highly unlikely that it formed by chance alone, this is the view of a physicist Paul Davies, and I independently came to the same conclusion.
Scientist now realise that for one kind of animal to develop into another (evolve) would require that changes take place within the cell, at a molecular level, as scientist cannot demonstrate how evolution can produce even the simplest cell, is it plausible that random mutation and natural selection could be responsible for different kinds of animals?
According to one professor of biological sciences, prof Michael Behe says that while searching for answers, what has been revealed is an unexpected, stunning complexity that could not possibly be the result of evolution by unintelligent processes.
Whilst many insists that an evolutionary origin of life is an indisputable fact, many are not satisfied with answers Evolution provides regarding origin of life
and how it developed in the first place.
As I said, one doesn't even need to be a biologist, you only have to look at how complex we and many organisms and other animals are, this is not a chance thing, given the time frame the earth became habitable, in that time the number of species on earth today would simply not have been accounted for through evolution alone.
As for origin of life on earth, scientist speculate the existence of molecules that preceded genetic make up as we know it today, these molecules are supposedly mushroomed spontaneously from an inert matter, and were self replicating, yet there is no evidence of such molecules ever existed, nor have scientist been able to create any such molecules in labs.
living cells are unique the way they store and process and execute information stored within their genetic make up (DNA) and yet Evolution cannot explain the origin (source) of this genetic make up.
Protein molecules are necessary for the functioning of a cell, a typical protein molecule has hundreds of amino acids strung together in a specific sequence, further more this protein molecule must fold into a specific three dimensional helix or shape, to be useful, and many scientist now conclude that the odds of even one protein molecule forming spontaneously is extremely improbable, since a functioning cell requires thousands of different proteins which is highly unlikely that it formed by chance alone, this is the view of a physicist Paul Davies, and I independently came to the same conclusion.
Scientist now realise that for one kind of animal to develop into another (evolve) would require that changes take place within the cell, at a molecular level, as scientist cannot demonstrate how evolution can produce even the simplest cell, is it plausible that random mutation and natural selection could be responsible for different kinds of animals?
According to one professor of biological sciences, prof Michael Behe says that while searching for answers, what has been revealed is an unexpected, stunning complexity that could not possibly be the result of evolution by unintelligent processes.
Whilst many insists that an evolutionary origin of life is an indisputable fact, many are not satisfied with answers Evolution provides regarding origin of life
and how it developed in the first place.
As I said, one doesn't even need to be a biologist, you only have to look at how complex we and many organisms and other animals are, this is not a chance thing, given the time frame the earth became habitable, in that time the number of species on earth today would simply not have been accounted for through evolution alone.
All I can say is that praying doesn't seem to work for me.
I've been asking God to let me win the Lottery for years now: nothing.
Still, I suppose it might help if I occasionally bought a ticket.
Have you got any conception of how long the time frame you are talking about actually is?
Have you got any conception of how long one million years is? Let alone three and a half thousand million years.
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You keep mentioning chance.You have not grasped the theory of evolution by natural selection.
Looking for God in a test tube...... err you missed him, where is his presence not? You will need to open your eyes and mind to see him.
Remember, when there was absolutely no matter, only Energy prevailed, E=Mc2 did not apply, there was no matter, no Mc2, it was only E=E then, until the time came when big bang happened and E became E=MC2, every atom born since then emerged from this big E, which stands for Energy or God, which dominated space, and still does in the form of invisible Energy or dark Energy or dark matter, what we cannot see.
What is in that test tube in that picture, and the test tube itself is part of God, no wonder Scientist can't find God!
(Reality is indeed too interesting to be content with ignorance)
Remember, when there was absolutely no matter, only Energy prevailed, E=Mc2 did not apply, there was no matter, no Mc2, it was only E=E then, until the time came when big bang happened and E became E=MC2, every atom born since then emerged from this big E, which stands for Energy or God, which dominated space, and still does in the form of invisible Energy or dark Energy or dark matter, what we cannot see.
What is in that test tube in that picture, and the test tube itself is part of God, no wonder Scientist can't find God!
(Reality is indeed too interesting to be content with ignorance)
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