Government meddling?

Sports injuries tend to be isolated trauma that can be managed at a reasonable cost. Even if lifelong, physio and pain relief are often enough. Sports help improve physical and mental well being and reduce the risk of the person needing treatment for other things during their life. So the risk vs benefit ratio is in favour of sports.

Obesity on the other hand has no benefits to health and is almost always down to personal greed and lack of self control. It causes heart disease, stroke, diabetes and chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder, which are in the top 10 causes of death in the world, as well as wear and tear on the joints which often require more care than sports injuries.

I would say it would be fair to individuals and society as a whole, to encourage people to play sports by offering free treatment while charging the fat people who suffer complications through their own greed.
 
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Excellent post Cajar.

Whilst I agree with most things you have said, it is also fair to say that fatties do contribute in a minimal way by paying tax on chips, pizza, burgers and pies.

Granted, this is only a fraction of their burden on society, but it all counts.
 
gregers said:
what i dont understand is,
how we have to pay for prescriptions in england and other areas do not.
parking at hospitals in england other areas do not.
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Good question. I sometimes wonder why the Scots and Welsh have these benefits and the English do not.

The same could be said about going to university: am I right in thinking that only English students are required to take out a loan?

And what about MPs? Scottish and Welsh MPs can vote not only in their own parliaments but also in Westminster, whereas English MPs have no vote in Scottish and Welsh parliaments. If we're going to be perfectly fair and equal, shouldn't England have its own parliament in which only English MPs can vote?
 
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We're undereducated and dying of heart failure by the time we reach 50, you just feel sorry for us :D
 
The Welsh and the Scots need all the help they can get.

Wasn't Scotland once touted as 'the sick man of Europe' with Glasgow inhabitants topping the heart disease list at one time?

And the Welsh are just skint.
 
As somebody who is not greedy even though I played sports all my life until 4/5 years ago I have always had weight issues... not obese but on the heavy side of the local football team.. I have tried diets,low carb,slimfast,not eating at certain times with every type of pattern but I am still on the heavy side and paid taxes since I was 16 and that was a long time ago.... ................ Last time I visited somebody in hospital it was full of SKINNY/SLIM folk lying in all the beds and nipping outside for a FAG ...so before you go insulting fat folk look at who is taking up the beds in the hospital........ and don't get me started on the non English/taxpayer hosp bed hoggers...........
 
Polish women come over here for a termination as it's illegal over there. We don't mind do we?

They come over here to have babies too in the free maternity wards. We don't mind do we?

They then take back child benefit for the next 16 years for the Brit born sprog. But we don't mind do we?
 
Another example of government meddling....

http://www.parliament.uk/business/b...reading/children-and-families-bill/childcare/

Childminders would now have to sign up with an agency (and pay fees to that agency).
Parents would have to pay the agency, to be offered a childminder.

Agency would first and foremost be profit-driven I'd bet, is doubtful whether they'd know any childminder on it's books from Adam, and therefore would take fees for no improvement in services.

Job creation and bureaucracy - of all things, from a Tory-led government :eek: - paid for by the working parent, and the childminder. And I'd bet their income tax (which already pays for the same service via the local authority, and Ofsted) will not be reduced commensurately.


By reading the comments, childminders, parents and current service providers are pretty much in total agreement i.e. not a good proposal.
 
joe-90 said:
Polish women come over here for a termination as it's illegal over there. We don't mind do we?

They come over here to have babies too in the free maternity wards. We don't mind do we?

They then take back child benefit for the next 16 years for the Brit born sprog. But we don't mind do we?
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Sadly you are right on this Joe,there have been at least three Polish wifes/girlfriends (not mine)at work who have done just this.
 
joe-90 said:
Polish women come over here for a termination as it's illegal over there. We don't mind do we?

They come over here to have babies too in the free maternity wards. We don't mind do we?

They then take back child benefit for the next 16 years for the Brit born sprog. But we don't mind do we?
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Not when they bring their hard working husbands, no.
 
Wish we could swap some of our 18 stoners for more of those fit polish birds tbh. :p
 
noseall said:
joe-90 said:
Polish women come over here for a termination as it's illegal over there. We don't mind do we?

They come over here to have babies too in the free maternity wards. We don't mind do we?

They then take back child benefit for the next 16 years for the Brit born sprog. But we don't mind do we?
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Not when they bring their hard working husbands, no.
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Don't tell me you are employing Poles now. :rolleyes:
 
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