Reminds me of a situation Jimmy Carr got into once. He'd been doing a stand up and had told a few jokes about fat people. Afterwards in the bar a girl (a larger than average one) came up to him and accused him of being 'fattist'. He looked her up and down and said; no way, you're definitely fattest.
Government meddling?
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i too would probably come into the same category as your self,used to play a lot of football in my early teens and used to cycle on average 15 miles a day.
and i now play on average of 4 rounds of golf during the summer months,and being a carpenter and where i work do an awful lot of walking etc.
and yet my knees are letting me down,so is my back from time to time.
so i think i get quite a bit of exercise over the week etc.
and yet according to some im a liability
Don't get many around our way.Don't tell me you are employing Poles now.
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Isn't that the same thing?
It is a simple equation. If you are fat, eat less. If you eat more calories than your body can burn off or use then you will put on weight. You can not defy physics.
It always tickles me when you hear an 18st bloke saying that he only eats small amounts but it all goes straight on me belly etc. Ship him off to a lab' I say, as he has cracked the worlds energy supply shortage and re-written the laws of physics regards energy input and output.
Certainly not.
I'm overweight (slightly), but not obese. There are specific definitions according to the medics.
The idea that the solution to obesity problem to tell overweight people to eat less is an nonsense.
It fundamentally misses why people get fat in the first place. Just look at the failure rates of diets to know that telling people to eat less does not work. It not because the average fat person is lazy or stupid.
The reason is a bit complex. But boils down to something called fuel partitioning. Basically because of the types of food we eat. It forces our bodies to store fat directly without you ever having a chance to use up them calories.
Imagine you get paid £1000 a month and you spend £1000 a month to live on...you are good. You have a nice balance. But now you have a pension fund you have to pay in to. You a forced to pay in to it you cannot opt out.
Now you have to pay out £200 in to a pension fund. you have no choice but to pay in. You now have £200 short fall and have only two options… work more or cut back(don’t go out, start missing meals etc)
Which brings me nicely back to our bodies? To manage the same activity levels you have to eat more and slowly became fatter and fatter or eat the same amount, become a couch potato and still be come fat.
A calorie restricted diet is a semi starvation diet. Most people can do it for a while...almost everyone will fail. The people that manage it have used near biblical will power.
Biochemically the odds are against you. Your body is locked in a cycle which is very difficult to break out off.
The worst thing to do is to blame people for something which often times they have little control over. It also moves a biological problem in to a mental health problem...
It is very very easy to pick on fat people but it gets us no where.
what makes us fat?...in the end its sugar. about 75% of us to some degree can't handle a high carb diet.
a good book about this subject is 'Why We Get Fat' by Gary Taubes
It fundamentally misses why people get fat in the first place. Just look at the failure rates of diets to know that telling people to eat less does not work. It not because the average fat person is lazy or stupid.
The reason is a bit complex. But boils down to something called fuel partitioning. Basically because of the types of food we eat. It forces our bodies to store fat directly without you ever having a chance to use up them calories.
Imagine you get paid £1000 a month and you spend £1000 a month to live on...you are good. You have a nice balance. But now you have a pension fund you have to pay in to. You a forced to pay in to it you cannot opt out.
Now you have to pay out £200 in to a pension fund. you have no choice but to pay in. You now have £200 short fall and have only two options… work more or cut back(don’t go out, start missing meals etc)
Which brings me nicely back to our bodies? To manage the same activity levels you have to eat more and slowly became fatter and fatter or eat the same amount, become a couch potato and still be come fat.
A calorie restricted diet is a semi starvation diet. Most people can do it for a while...almost everyone will fail. The people that manage it have used near biblical will power.
Biochemically the odds are against you. Your body is locked in a cycle which is very difficult to break out off.
The worst thing to do is to blame people for something which often times they have little control over. It also moves a biological problem in to a mental health problem...
It is very very easy to pick on fat people but it gets us no where.
what makes us fat?...in the end its sugar. about 75% of us to some degree can't handle a high carb diet.
a good book about this subject is 'Why We Get Fat' by Gary Taubes
which is very nice but if you meet obese people or see them on tv they all have 3 things in common- they eat way more than the normal person both in portion size and how often they eat, they do much less activity never mind exercise, and they are deluded to the point where they think their habits are normal and they can't understand why they are a house end when they do the same as everyone else( which isn't true ofc)
I think Mehran must be correct.
At the place in which I used to work was a lady who was wider than she was tall, yet every lunchtime I'd see her eating a bowl of healthy-looking salad.
I'm sure it must have been that which made her so fat.
(Sarcasm mode off.)
At the place in which I used to work was a lady who was wider than she was tall, yet every lunchtime I'd see her eating a bowl of healthy-looking salad.
I'm sure it must have been that which made her so fat.
(Sarcasm mode off.)
And then there are a few poor souls who are slightly overweight for their frames due to some b**t**ds running them down in a car resulting in spinal injuries which severe certain nerves and making them disabled for life.
These nerves control muscle development but due to them now being irreparably damaged the muscles are no longer able to fulfil their role leading to the poor person 'appearing' to be overweight when in reality there weight is ideal but the physical appearance is wrong. Medically they are 'fit' and can carry out most normal tasks/jobs but the damaged nerves are highly sensitive to pain so the person is in continual agony. However, the only 'demands' they place on the NHS are to have reviews every few months to check their progress.
And as an aside, the motorist was not insured and a claim against the shopping centre for not de-icing the car park was defeated by them spending hundreds of thousands on top barristers to fight their corner. How can a member of the public fight against that kind of opposition without a guaranteed success?
These nerves control muscle development but due to them now being irreparably damaged the muscles are no longer able to fulfil their role leading to the poor person 'appearing' to be overweight when in reality there weight is ideal but the physical appearance is wrong. Medically they are 'fit' and can carry out most normal tasks/jobs but the damaged nerves are highly sensitive to pain so the person is in continual agony. However, the only 'demands' they place on the NHS are to have reviews every few months to check their progress.
And as an aside, the motorist was not insured and a claim against the shopping centre for not de-icing the car park was defeated by them spending hundreds of thousands on top barristers to fight their corner. How can a member of the public fight against that kind of opposition without a guaranteed success?
You've only got to look at the western diet and realize why we are plagued with obese people. In particular fast food outlets.
I'm especially disgusted with UK version of pizza. Horrific lardy thick bases laden with lard in the crust, covered with greasy lardy topping and tasting of ...er ...lard.
I'm certainly no salad munching saint, far from it, but i do like to balance my diet. I'm not afraid of being hungry either. Fatties are petrified of feeling hungry.
So, whilst Mehrans speech was very moving, I'm more inclined to believe that the only reason we have so many fat people on our planet now is because they choose what they eat so they choose to be fat.
I'm especially disgusted with UK version of pizza. Horrific lardy thick bases laden with lard in the crust, covered with greasy lardy topping and tasting of ...er ...lard.
I'm certainly no salad munching saint, far from it, but i do like to balance my diet. I'm not afraid of being hungry either. Fatties are petrified of feeling hungry.
So, whilst Mehrans speech was very moving, I'm more inclined to believe that the only reason we have so many fat people on our planet now is because they choose what they eat so they choose to be fat.
Whilst there are a (relatively) small number of people who find it difficult to keep the weight off, due to a medical condition, there is no excuse for the sheer numbers of fatties currently occupying planet Earth.
The numbers of obese people worldwide has nearly DOUBLED since 1980!
My wife has two friends that became massively over weight from simply looking at food Then the nhs stepped in and the weight simply fell off...............nothing done to their eyes mind.................................just the new wonder cure, a gastric band
Then the nhs stepped in and the weight simply fell off...............nothing done to their eyes mind.................................just the new wonder cure, a gastric band 
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Whilst there are a (relatively) small number of people who find it difficult to keep the weight off, due to a medical condition, there is no excuse for the sheer numbers of fatties currently occupying planet Earth.
The numbers of obese people worldwide has nearly DOUBLED since 1980!
So has the population.
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