has the pub had its day
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Do they allow the bar staff to leave first? After all wasnt the law brought in to protect their health amongst others?
They will not do it until the staff have finished work. Some go home and the others stay for a drink and a smoke.
They are certainly not forced to sit in the pub whilst anyone is smoking.
It doesn't happen often, and only when a trusted few are in there, who are all smokers.
They are certainly not forced to sit in the pub whilst anyone is smoking.
It doesn't happen often, and only when a trusted few are in there, who are all smokers.
Thats fair enough and seems a very civilised way to enjoy their habit, though i hope the pub is well ventilated afterwards for the next day.
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when the smoking ban came in all ,the smokers said they would be going out more what happen 
the smokers stay at home and the non smokers stop going to pubs because no one was in them why not open a smoke room for those who want to risk a pint and a lung who wants to live for ever. oh i dont smoke and never have , but i would rather sit in a full pub than an empty one. or look at a close boarded up one so all you non smokers start doing what you promises, to fill the pubs
the smokers stay at home and the non smokers stop going to pubs because no one was in them why not open a smoke room for those who want to risk a pint and a lung who wants to live for ever. oh i dont smoke and never have , but i would rather sit in a full pub than an empty one. or look at a close boarded up one so all you non smokers start doing what you promises, to fill the pubsWhy is the drop-off in pub trade viewed as a bad thing?
If there was a crack-down on murderers, thieves and ****** buying petrol for their stolen and uninsured pick-up trucks and beaten up Transits, would there be an outcry about the loss of fuel sales?
If pubs want to survive in a changing market, then they have to do what every other business does - change. Many of them already have, and expanded the restaurant part of their business, which appeals to the families who could never enjoy pubs without shortening the life of their lungs and reeking of smoke. The rest of them will go to the wall.
If there was a crack-down on murderers, thieves and ****** buying petrol for their stolen and uninsured pick-up trucks and beaten up Transits, would there be an outcry about the loss of fuel sales?
If pubs want to survive in a changing market, then they have to do what every other business does - change. Many of them already have, and expanded the restaurant part of their business, which appeals to the families who could never enjoy pubs without shortening the life of their lungs and reeking of smoke. The rest of them will go to the wall.
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confidentincompetent
Stella £3.50 a pint.....
They dont ''heave'' round here like they used too..
But even tho I stopped smoking I still can't see why British pubs cant have the choice like in Spain, where restaurants can be classified as smoking permitted establishments.. But not england ooooh no our pinstripes had to add a little more .... control ...controllllll.
They dont ''heave'' round here like they used too..
But even tho I stopped smoking I still can't see why British pubs cant have the choice like in Spain, where restaurants can be classified as smoking permitted establishments.. But not england ooooh no our pinstripes had to add a little more .... control ...controllllll.
Control, or rules in the interests of The Common Good?
For example, if there was a sudden growth in the popularity of drinking salt water and recreationally vomiting it up into the laps of other pub go-ers, would you like to see some "controls" introduced to curb that habit?
For example, if there was a sudden growth in the popularity of drinking salt water and recreationally vomiting it up into the laps of other pub go-ers, would you like to see some "controls" introduced to curb that habit?
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confidentincompetent
no!
I would simply go to the place where they dont vomit on my lap
There were plenty of no smoking venues before the ban... cinema, certain restaurants, most pub's had no smoking area's.. not ideal but lots more atmosphere (koff).
Strange really there is now a pervading air of compliancy, pubs are mostly quiet and all the fun and convo is outside annoying passersby and neighbours...[/code]
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Why is the drop-off in pub trade viewed as a bad thing?
If there was a crack-down on murderers, thieves and ****** buying petrol for their stolen and uninsured pick-up trucks and beaten up Transits, would there be an outcry about the loss of fuel sales?
If pubs want to survive in a changing market, then they have to do what every other business does - change. Many of them already have, and expanded the restaurant part of their business, which appeals to the families who could never enjoy pubs without shortening the life of their lungs and reeking of smoke. The rest of them will go to the wall.
Yep..
I think pubs have slowly started to move on and they have realised to potential of food...a lot of them have also started knocking out coffee..a very lucrative market if it too at crica 250-3 quid a pop..
but skoming issue aside for a sec..I still like a pint in an old fashioned pub..by 'old fashioned' I dont mean fake beams etc..i am talking Lino..bags of crisps and a few cheese rolls, old fellas sitting in 'their seat' and a little bit of grubbiness about the place...give me one of those anyday over a plastic theme pub where the staff pretend to be Irish, Australian, or New Zealanders for a few weeks...and punters feel obliged to say strange things like 'arr bejsus' and wothca cobba' as soon as they walk up to the bar.. I really cant stand pubs stinking of garlic..almost as bad as coming home with your clothes stinking of fags..(and I smoke occasionally)
Pub food was always good value..proper pub food though not 'sizzling' steaks..it seem like every pub has turned into a Harvester ..where they wiegh the chips and count the peas.
I think theres another angle though...the health of the staff that work there..or anywhere..not that I think that was the main worry..the main worry was being sued some years down the line by someone who says they had to work in that environment and the employer had not displayed a 'duty of care' in keeping them away from harmfull substances...'Rentawrit and Co' will take any case on remember.
That said I think its *******'s that a guy gets done for smoking in his own van, on his own, out of hours all because its regarded as a 'place of work'
Not possible in my scenario, because retailers would sell small capsules of concentrated salt water and an artificial finger, sticking-down-throat-for-the-purpose-of.no!
I would simply go to the place where they dont vomit on my lap
Everywhere you go, outside your own home, you would encounter selfish salt-vomiting idiots, and have to tediously wash the smell out of your clothes and hair when you got home every day.
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confidentincompetent
Before the ban ...There existed places where you could eat and drink without smokers.. just as much as there were places even I (when a smoker) wouldnt bother going to.. Now you have to wash etc because of smokers standing outside pubs, workplace..... etc.. Along with all the diesel fumes etc etc..
What's wrong with havin a pub- ran by smokers for smokers with all the relevant disclaimers signed.
My cousin runs a pub (she smokes) and has to go into her living quarters or outside
Doesn't sound like freedom to me
Most of the regulars don't smoke or have packed up. BUT they exclaim that the "atmosphere" has gone (not just the smokey one).They poddle off outside with the smokers to carry on their converstions.
IMO most would want it reinstated to then have the choice, at my local I mean.
My cousin runs a pub (she smokes) and has to go into her living quarters or outside
Doesn't sound like freedom to me
Most of the regulars don't smoke or have packed up. BUT they exclaim that the "atmosphere" has gone (not just the smokey one).They poddle off outside with the smokers to carry on their converstions.
IMO most would want it reinstated to then have the choice, at my local I mean.
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