Having a return VS having an extra Newel Post?

[NHW]

Currently pricing up stairs refurbishment and i have been given the option of either having a return or putting 2 posts.

Because it is going to be all glass, There is a gap at the top of the stairs (on the landing) where i can have either

a return with a piece of glass, so it'd pretty much look similar to this:

or i could have 2 posts side by side with an approximate 90mm gap inbetween, similar to this:

I feel like having the extra post creates more stability with the whole structure overall rather than a 'return'. is there any reason i should go with a return instead of adding an extra newel post?

The landing area currently looks like this (ignore the lines & measurements lol)

The penciled in 'X' is where i would have the 2nd post. and then it would basically run straight up to the wall and into a half post.

any advice at all is appreciated.

 

[blup]

Either option provided the post is suitably notched and fixed to floor joist. Ask how they intend to do it.

Blup

 

[Tigercubrider]

I feel that it depends on the vibe that you are trying to achieve, plus the space available.

Two posts is more "period" when space was larger, posts were bulkier, and wood was dark and varnished.

I like the single newel - one other option (if possible ) could be the straight landing run first, followed by the stair banister coming straight up but having a 90degree return to meet the newel at the top?

 

[NHW]

I feel that it depends on the vibe that you are trying to achieve, plus the space available.

Two posts is more "period" when space was larger, posts were bulkier, and wood was dark and varnished.

I like the single newel - one other option (if possible ) could be the straight landing run first, followed by the stair banister coming straight up but having a 90degree turn to meet the newel at the top?

So the alternative was that he said they can even produce a 280mm wide newel which would essentially be a triple newel but straight only. So it'd basically be a newel the width of a typical 30cm ruler lol

I think that would just look too chunky for my liking.

We are going with a modern clean looking aesthetic. So the existing newels were white, cut down and then the new oak newels will sit on top. So it's white/oak

I'm trying to picture what you meant in regards to your recommendation but when I read it, I've pretty much got the image of the 1st picture in my mind.

Also do you happen to know if having a 90mm gap with no glass or post etc is OK with regulations. I'm sure the regulation was no gap wider than 100mm (baby's head). Thank you for your advice btw

 

[NHW]

Either option provided the post is suitably notched and fixed to floor joist. Ask how they intend to do it.

Blup

Yeah basically what has happened is that they've done something with the stairs where they extended the width of the landing but then the handrail was like literally 600mm height which was under regs so it all had to be torn down anyways.

The existing posts are still there (but chopped down) so we are thinking of using the newel post connectors to attatch a new post onto the place of the old (on top)

 

[Tigercubrider]

it's pretty much your first image, but the landing Newels are in line and the top of the stair handrail does a sharp 90 degree turn to meet the Newel.
Dunno about the gap off the top of my head but you could just have a narrow glass panel there?

 

[NHW]

Ahhhhh gotcha, Yeah the problem they said was that they can't produce a glass panel 50mm wide, it's too small apparently.

With a 90mm gap you need 20mm off each side for the wedges to hold the glass panel inside.

So leaves me with 50mm left if I was to put a glass piece in there but then they can't make a 50mm glass piece lol

 

[Tigercubrider]

a 90mm gap is smaller than the 100mm minimum?

 

[blup]

Yeah basically what has happened is that they've done something with the stairs where they extended the width of the landing but then the handrail was like literally 600mm height which was under regs so it all had to be torn down anyways.

The existing posts are still there (but chopped down) so we are thinking of using the newel post connectors to attatch a new post onto the place of the old (on top)

The single newel option looks better, although it can help to have a post to grab onto in line with the staircase.

Blup