Health Secretary

[SirGalahad]

This is the real problem. They get us to pay for their training then bugger off. Did they have to repay any of their training costs? Perhaps any rise needs to be tied to a contract where they have to repay a huge amount if they don't earn their keep with the NHS after training.

The rest of the world is doing very well from all the NHS training that we're all paying for.

Well to keep them pay more, they end up paying 45% of that in taxes back so who loses out?

 

[transam]

On the news this morning
There union advised some of the docs not to tell
Hospital Management if they were striking untill the last moment ?

So as to cause maximum disruption

 

[charliegolf]

So as to cause maximum disruption

Kinda the idea of a strike, I'd always thought.

 

[securespark]

Isn't that the point of a strike? If there was no impact, it would not be so effective.

That wasn't my point. My point was that Barclay was complaining that Drs are putting patients' lives at risk, but the Tories have been doing that for years by screwing the NHS.

 

[gas112]

I'm sure someone will want to deny this is correct... I won't. £3 an hour over minimum wage. I get £12 for invigilating exams in a comp. Real life or death stuff.

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So was this wage kept a secret from them when they decided to take up the career ?

 

[securespark]

FFS....

 

[charliegolf]

So was this wage kept a secret from them when they decided to take up the career ?

Fair point, for a change Gas... I suspect they might have believed the lie that they might be expected to work 40-48 hours a week though, thus making the hourly rate a bit more respectable.

 

[blup]

Steve Barclay, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, says striking doctors are risking patient safety.

Barcly's a bland passive aggressive thug towing a line, but what do you do when faced by such a huge pay claim. If we printed money for lockdown we can print money for the doctors.

Blup

 

[IT Minion]

So the current line is: they should all **** off to Australia and get paid better and have a less dysfunctional working environment.

Great, thanks for that.

According to doctors the working conditions have deteriorated and are continuing to deteriorate. Plus the 25% real terms pay cut over the last 15 years.

 

[transam]

Perhaps they should have looked into being train drivers ???

 

[charliegolf]

Perhaps they should have looked into being train drivers ???

Yeah, losing a **** load of the people who keep us healthy as we age; reassemble us when some idiot runs us over or cures our cancers is a great idea. You should run for office.

 

[Brigadier]

On the news this morning
There union advised some of the docs not to tell
Hospital Management if they were striking untill the last moment ?

So as to cause maximum disruption

Second-born's teachers were advised the same, by their union.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

...but the Tories have been doing that for years by screwing the NHS.

Nice slogan, often repeated, but not actually true. See the info further back in the thread, with links to statistics showing that the NHS is currently better funded than ever.

The NHS is a bottomless pit. However much we throw at it, they will still want more. In fact it's more like a cancerous tumour.

Doctors are spinning a lie that it's all about the greater good, more pay will mean more doctors etc etc. Perhaps they don't actually want any more money, they're doing it for the good of the world. Utter rubbish, rich people have always wanted to get richer.

 

[IT Minion]

Nice slogan, often repeated, but not actually true. See the info further back in the thread, with links to statistics showing that the NHS is currently better funded than ever.

The NHS is a bottomless pit. However much we throw at it, they will still want more. In fact it's more like a cancerous tumour.

Doctors are spinning a lie that it's all about the greater good, more pay will mean more doctors etc etc. Perhaps they don't actually want any more money, they're doing it for the good of the world. Utter rubbish, rich people have always wanted to get richer.

Who is to blame for the NHS funding crisis, a funding squeeze is leaving the NHS overwhelmed

Key facts about the funding of the NHS. Has the NHS got enough resources. How does our spending on health compare with other countries. What about the staffing crisis, rationing, delays in care? Do other countries have more doctors and hospital beds. Have there been cuts to public health, mental...

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1.4% average increase against a historical trend of 3.7%.

Medication bills have gone up as we are trying to keep old people alive for a long time and they're expensive.

 

[securespark]

Thanks, Minion.

Let's hope Ivor reads that.