It's in a block of flats in Scotland.
I don't know what the rules are, but I do know that in many instances work in a flat can require a warrant when it wouldn't in a house, and this could be one of those instances.
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I don't know what the rules are, but I do know that in many instances work in a flat can require a warrant when it wouldn't in a house, and this could be one of those instances.
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attractivebrunette
Ban-all-sheds...
What on earth are you talking about? Have a banana smoothy, sit-down and listen. There were no manufacturers instructions for installation. That is why I came on here. That is what these forums are for. So, before you get all excited, I didn't ignore what they told me and used .5 flex. I simply used .5 flex because I didn't know any different.
"Desperately incompetent and dangerous"? Oh, please. There once was a day when YOU didn't know anything about electrics. And when you were learning, would you have liked someone to say you were incompetent and dangerous? ****.
And I didn't switch on anything whatsoever after I had wired it in. I knew that wouldn't be sensible, so I came on here and asked experts. That's what these forums are for. So I'm not as stupid as you think.
I didn't know SFA about the subject, I know the basics of wiring and I've got a lot of common sense. I would never, ever wire something in and switch it on until I was 100% sure it was correct.
And my, how large your letters are! And all a big angry red colour! You're going to blow a gasket in a minute.
To say someone is WAY OUT OF THEIR DEPTH! when all they're doing is using a 2-way junction box to connect the mains to a hob, shows you haven't a clue about how these forums work. It's not as if I'm trying to put in a split load consumer unit all on my own. I'm connecting an electric hob for goodness sake!
And by saying that I must NOT ATTEMPT ANNYTHING BY INSTALLING THIS HOB! you're suggesting that all the advice I've received from everyone so far, is totall *******s and that all the people who have advised me, haven't a clue what they're talking about. Rubbish.
The day I call an electrician in to connect a hob is the day that electricians stop ripping people off. I called 12 electricians for a quote to install my split load unit. Every single one quoted me an hourly rate without VAT. It was only when I was just about to hang-up and I asked them to confirm the price, then I said after that, "Are you absolutely sure that's the final price?" did they then admit that they would add VAT onto the final price.
It's the oldest trick in the book...quote a price ex-VAT to make the caller think they're good value, do the work, then ask for a cheque way more than the original quote and say, "Yeah, VAT love, everyone has to pay VAT". Too late. Most people grit their teeth and realise they've been conned by cant ask for the work to be undone again.
So, get off your high horse, realise that the whole point of these forums is for people to help each other and give advice so they can carry out work themselves and decide whether you want to add constructive criticism.
What on earth are you talking about? Have a banana smoothy, sit-down and listen. There were no manufacturers instructions for installation. That is why I came on here. That is what these forums are for. So, before you get all excited, I didn't ignore what they told me and used .5 flex. I simply used .5 flex because I didn't know any different.
"Desperately incompetent and dangerous"? Oh, please. There once was a day when YOU didn't know anything about electrics. And when you were learning, would you have liked someone to say you were incompetent and dangerous? ****.
And I didn't switch on anything whatsoever after I had wired it in. I knew that wouldn't be sensible, so I came on here and asked experts. That's what these forums are for. So I'm not as stupid as you think.
I didn't know SFA about the subject, I know the basics of wiring and I've got a lot of common sense. I would never, ever wire something in and switch it on until I was 100% sure it was correct.
And my, how large your letters are! And all a big angry red colour! You're going to blow a gasket in a minute.
To say someone is WAY OUT OF THEIR DEPTH! when all they're doing is using a 2-way junction box to connect the mains to a hob, shows you haven't a clue about how these forums work. It's not as if I'm trying to put in a split load consumer unit all on my own. I'm connecting an electric hob for goodness sake!
And by saying that I must NOT ATTEMPT ANNYTHING BY INSTALLING THIS HOB! you're suggesting that all the advice I've received from everyone so far, is totall *******s and that all the people who have advised me, haven't a clue what they're talking about. Rubbish.
The day I call an electrician in to connect a hob is the day that electricians stop ripping people off. I called 12 electricians for a quote to install my split load unit. Every single one quoted me an hourly rate without VAT. It was only when I was just about to hang-up and I asked them to confirm the price, then I said after that, "Are you absolutely sure that's the final price?" did they then admit that they would add VAT onto the final price.
It's the oldest trick in the book...quote a price ex-VAT to make the caller think they're good value, do the work, then ask for a cheque way more than the original quote and say, "Yeah, VAT love, everyone has to pay VAT". Too late. Most people grit their teeth and realise they've been conned by cant ask for the work to be undone again.
So, get off your high horse, realise that the whole point of these forums is for people to help each other and give advice so they can carry out work themselves and decide whether you want to add constructive criticism.
I'm gonna plug it in in a minute, Swidders!
she won't be answering for a while until the power to her block is restored, and she can borrow a neighbours laptop untill the insurance buys her a replacement for her stuff lost in the fire....
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swidders
But you have ignored their advice
Maybe not, but naive and potentially dangerously so
What do you call basics?
You repeatedly, prematurely asked if it was ok to turn it on yet.
You haven't used a 2-way junction box yet. You've used a pattress, which you still haven't descibed whether you intend to fix to the wall, nor whether you have a cover for it, and a multistrip connector which may be of insufficient design rating as you don't know the oven's requirements yet
You asking for advice an ignoring it where it doesn't suit indicates that it's not us that doesn't understand how these forums work
They have, but you keep ignoring it
..is what you have just written
Blame the government, not them
Are you paranoid?
Which you can then ignore
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attractivebrunette
I'm gonna plug it in in a minute, Swidders!
she won't be answering for a while until the power to her block is restored, and she can borrow a neighbours laptop untill the insurance buys her a replacement for her stuff lost in the fire....
So you think the advice you've given me will cause a short circuit? I thought you were giving me correct advice.
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swidders
Your not following the advice, so you only have yourself to blameI'm gonna plug it in in a minute, Swidders!
she won't be answering for a while until the power to her block is restored, and she can borrow a neighbours laptop untill the insurance buys her a replacement for her stuff lost in the fire....
So you think the advice you've given me will cause a short circuit? I thought you were giving me correct advice.
So what is written on the data plate, in the places where it shows a piece of flex?
Well either that, or this:
is a lie.
Or you are so stupid that you really don't grasp just how ignorant you are?
If I'd done something as incompetent and dangerous as you I would have deserved it.
I just hoped that if I made it big and bright the message might penetrate that thick skull of yours.
No - it shows that you don't have a clue what you are doing.
They know what they are talking about.
What I'm suggesting (? - nay, plainly stating) is not that they don't know what they are talking about, but that they were wrong to give you any advice apart from "get an electrician", because you are utterly incapable of being trusted to do this job.
That is indeed what this forum is for.
But you are so far away from knowing what you need to know to be able to do this that you cannot learn what you're lacking by asking questions here.
"Get an electrician" is constructive advice, and it might save lives.
And you lot don't seem to see a Troll when it hits you.
'She' claims to know sod all about electrics but is now talking about split load boards?
Come on lads, it's been a hard week for most of us but when a 'woman' writes in I go on full alert for the slip ups. I don't deny some women write in but not many.
AB, if you really are a woman and genuine with your post then take BAS's advice and leave well alone. You are out of your depth and no forum can teach you over the ethernet.
'She' claims to know sod all about electrics but is now talking about split load boards?
Come on lads, it's been a hard week for most of us but when a 'woman' writes in I go on full alert for the slip ups. I don't deny some women write in but not many.
AB, if you really are a woman and genuine with your post then take BAS's advice and leave well alone. You are out of your depth and no forum can teach you over the ethernet.
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attractivebrunette
What on earth is wrong with people tonight?? Last night, everyone was so helpful and friendly. Tonight, a few other people get involved and all of a sudden everyone suddenly becomes exceptionally nasty. From now on, anyone who simply posts unpleasant, pointless remarks, will be ignored. Anyone who wants to continue giving helpful advice, won't. And thank you for all the PM's of support.
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attractivebrunette
And you lot don't seem to see a Troll when it hits you.
'She' claims to know s** all about electrics but is now talking about split load boards?
Come on lads, it's been a hard week for most of us but when a 'woman' writes in I go on full alert for the slip ups. I don't deny some women write in but not many.
AB, if you really are a woman and genuine with your post then take BAS's advice and leave well alone. You are out of your depth and no forum can teach you over the ethernet.
I know about split load boards because, like I said in my long post, I got 12 quotes to replace my split load board. So I naturally spent a long time getting electricians in and talking to electricians. I'm not thick...
and I AM a woman! Do you really think a troll would spend the whole evening pretending to wire in a hob and take pictures and pull out the cooker and remove the gas hob, just because they were bored and wanted to 'troll' a bulletin board!? Get real.
BAS, there's no need to get personal...
the advise given here was to try and save her from doing something monumentally dangerous, and while the best advice may have been "get a pro in", many people don't want to take that advice and run off and try it anyway...
so we thought it best to guide her and inform her of the best way to do it...
getting stroppy about it doesn't help anything..
going on your current frame of mind BAS, we ought to lock this forum, delete all the posts and just put a sticky that says "stop messing about with it and call in a professional!!!!"..
we could do the same for all the other forums too....
the advise given here was to try and save her from doing something monumentally dangerous, and while the best advice may have been "get a pro in", many people don't want to take that advice and run off and try it anyway...
so we thought it best to guide her and inform her of the best way to do it...
getting stroppy about it doesn't help anything..
going on your current frame of mind BAS, we ought to lock this forum, delete all the posts and just put a sticky that says "stop messing about with it and call in a professional!!!!"..
we could do the same for all the other forums too....
I am a DIYer who, like you, doesn't like to get someone in unless it's absolutely necessary.
Please call an electrician.
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swidders
Last night you were helped because there was fear that you were going to go ahead with using .5mm flex regardless of advice to get an electrician. In short, they were trying to save your life.
Today, having read through the thread and seen you responses, it has become apparent that there is some questionmark over your ability to follow advice regarding this information. The pro's on here will all defer to a specialist tradesperson at times and use them accordingly, even though they have probably seen how things are installed.
To repeat, if you insist on doing this yourself, which you seem hell bent on doing, and which we strongly advise against:
1/.Get the Correct Cooker Outlet Plate- even if you have to order it
2/.Ensure you have put the link in place for the hob
3/.Find the rating for the oven - look online if all else fails
4/.Use Earth Sleeving
5/.Establish whether the current fuse in your consumer unit of sufficiently rated
6/.Fix the pattress to the wall
Please confirm that you have done each of these! Then it will give us confidence that you are taking on board what has been advised.
Today, having read through the thread and seen you responses, it has become apparent that there is some questionmark over your ability to follow advice regarding this information. The pro's on here will all defer to a specialist tradesperson at times and use them accordingly, even though they have probably seen how things are installed.
To repeat, if you insist on doing this yourself, which you seem hell bent on doing, and which we strongly advise against:
1/.Get the Correct Cooker Outlet Plate- even if you have to order it
2/.Ensure you have put the link in place for the hob
3/.Find the rating for the oven - look online if all else fails
4/.Use Earth Sleeving
5/.Establish whether the current fuse in your consumer unit of sufficiently rated
6/.Fix the pattress to the wall
Please confirm that you have done each of these! Then it will give us confidence that you are taking on board what has been advised.
Yes, it's what they do best. I believe you are going to wire in your hob but just wanted a bit of fun.
But you don't have a split load board!
You have a metal clad fuse box which may contain mcbs or rewireable fuses and no main rcd!
And you know what you are talking about?
Last reply from me. You are just not worth the effort.
she said she had 12 quotes, never said she accepted one..
don't take it personal..
last night it was "I've had quite a few beers and don't have to work tomorrow" night...
tonoght is "I can't have too many beers and have to get up at 05:00 to go to work tomorrow" night..
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