I doubt it will be split conc, the service head is far too old. It will be PILCSTA, just with no earth at the consumers end.
High earth reading
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True, but in this case it sounds as if the DNO have "refused to have anything to do with the earth" (seemingly probably on the basis of a photo?) - I would have thought most probably because they know,think or believe that it is not one which they 'provided'. Is that not the case?
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Yes could be
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High earth reading
Hi everyone I need some advice So my meter was making a arching noise and I called out UK power network . Engineer said I have a very old dial meter which needs changing . When he done his tests he said my earth reading was high 2.35 but they can't do anything about it as I have a Tenby...
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Hi everyone I need some advice So my meter was making a arching noise and I called out UK power network . Engineer said I have a very old dial meter which needs changing . When he done his tests he said my earth reading was high 2.35 but they can't do anything about it as I have a Tenby...www.diynot.com
Seemingly not.
I would call the DNO and report sounds of cracking from the existing head - that would get this resolved
Yep, that always works - usually within hours!
Because no records have been lost in the journey of privatisations, mergers, takeovers and buy-outs that the old electricity boards have been on....
Quite so it is.
Back in the day of the old Electriic Boards I do not realise how much we would miss them once they has gone.
Many towns had their own Electric showrooms (Gas Likewise). You could pay your bills there, sign for supplies etc etc. And you would speak to an actual person to discuss most queries. They would ring their district offices for further info or let you use there dedicated phone line (and guess what? They'd answer your call within a few minutes).
Nowadays we deal with utitilty companies, banks, GP surgeries, dentists, local gov, central gov, every organisation using additional technology called IT and it takes hours, weeks, months to actually get to speak to a person, if you are lucky.
We have become a third rate , third world, society , every thing has been dumbed down.and slowed down.
Its like we are on another planet.
Did George Orwell foresee all of this?
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Careful, the thought police will be after you. He stopped in 1984.
1978 the problems started, our Winter of Discontent, the government realised that having one supplier, be that the government or anyone else, does not work. And it started a battle between the political parties to nationalise or denationalise, be it coal, steel, electric, gas, or transport, it was not so much if nationalise or denationalise was good or bad, but the swapping between the two.
I worked for a council, and I saw how some departments worked well, where others had the attitude, "What's money" and interdepartmental squabbles, and as to workers, if an electrician feels he is under paid, easy, he finds another job, but with a nurse, there is really only one employer. However, the electrician one way or another paid for his education, the nurse got it free, no student loan for them. So swings and roundabouts, but working out who to ask to get a job done, is becoming a problem.
As I am sure already said, the DNO tell the homeowner what type of earth is to be used, it has to be this way around, as in some cases the earth is common between owners, a single metal framed building may have multi-supplies, however these are earthed, has to be the same. In real terms, my house has water in plastic, no gas, and enough distance between us and neighbours, so it would not matter if we had a different earth. There is no metal services joining us to neighbours, so if I decided to have a TT supply it would not be a problem.
But my last house was different, there were metal pipes (gas) joining the homes, and so what ever earth was used, the whole street needed to be the same. And it is so easy to forget not everyone lives in the same style of house, or has the same control.
I can decide if I have an RCD, RCBO etc, but tenants have to have what the landlord gives them, some goes for solar panels, EV charging points, even off-street parking. I look at homes where their garage has been converted to a room, and feel why should I struggle to get past their car on the road, but it may be rented and they have no option.
As to records, often that suits us, when I found no earth at the parent's house, I phoned the DNO and asked what earth I should have, they did not know, so had to send someone out, and so I got TN-C-S without needing to pay for it.
But my son re-wired a house, and was told it would be a TN-C-S supply, so left the earth tail to be connected when meter fitted, and the meter installer decided it should be TT, and left the house with no earth connected, by that time my son had stopped sole trading, sold his house, and was living in a narrow boat, i.e. of no fixed abode, so was unaware what had gone on. There was at least 3 months between re-wire, and the meter being fitted, years ago when fitting a meter they would check the house, not any more it seems.
Although I have had a phone call from son when a meter was moved, as they wanted an electrician on site when a meter moved, so seems they bend the rules to suit themselves?
What?
What would work better than having
only
ONE SUPPLIER
of
Water,
Sewerage,
Electrical Energy,
Gas,
Communications,
Roads
etc.
To supply such "services" by multiple means/suppliers would mean duplicating "infrastructure", which is a waste of resources.
(Can you imagine two sets of water and sewerage pipes available to you - for your choice of "Providers" - costing less than one set?)
How the single "Supply" is paid for (and, to whom "usage" of that supply is paid - in each case)
is quite another question.
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Sounded good until the miner's strike, we went on a three-day week as a result, the Winter of Discontent left me in a house where if no electric, then no heating, the gas heater would not work without electric. We moved house to one with a flue brick after, so at least we had one gas fire not needing electric.
In this house we have an open fire, which we could use, but never have, and also solar panels and a battery, with 10% of the battery held in reserve in case of a power cut, after 1979 no way would I rely on electric for heating again, so heat pumps are a non-starter.
OK, I can see how roads, water, etc, should be government controlled. Our railroads in the main have gone back to government control, but my local railway is not government owned, in the main run by volunteers, we are a bit old-fashioned where I live, we still have steam trains.
backup reliance and planet friendly tend to mix even less than mainstream coordination too, I suppose that for short term fixes in extreme, unusual circumstances we could be forgiven though.
One might think so - but, in some cases, we've been there, done that and got the T-shirts which indicate the downsides of that approach. 'Single' means 'very big', and that can often mean 'too big to be manageable or efficient'. Furthermore, any 'monopoly' (whether privately or State owned) is always of concern in terms of the interests of consumers.
Some people believe that one of the problems with our NHS is that it is 'far too big'.
Having said that, as has been recently written, the historical situation in the UK (for electricity, gas, water, sewage etc. etc.) was that, although consumers had 'no choice' (hence the 'monopoly concern') the suppliers were often relatively 'small'local ones, hence not 'too big to be manageable - and, as has recently been written above, that seemed to work pretty well.
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