Housing market downbeat

[motorbiking]

Well that went round in circles nicely.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Hence - I can't imagine it will work like that post Brexit.

Are you ever going to put forward a convincing justification for the argument that the HRA will change post Brexit?

Apparently not.

 

[motorbiking]

Why don't you have a read of it and then ask questions. If you have read it, did you find anything unusual in it regarding the ability to legislate other laws, that may impact it? In your vast legal experience is this common in statute? Do you think it may impact the creation of other laws? Do you understand why these clauses are there to start with?

 

[noseall]

Why don't you have a read of it and then ask questions. If you have read it, did you find anything unusual in it regarding the ability to legislate other laws, that may impact it? In your vast legal experience is this common in statute? Do you think it may impact the creation of other laws? Do you understand why these clauses are there to start with?

Why "can't you imagine" it working? Are we that alien to those in the rest of Europe? You must have your reasons for issuing such a strong statement.

 

[motorbiking]

3 issues:
1. we are going through a rather expensive process to take back control of our laws. It is at odds with that.
2. EU legislation protects/duplicates and goes further than the HRA, so currently there is no point in changing it, that will change
3. It has precedent language protecting it from amendment via other acts (because it is the UK enactment of a treaty). This means it must be changed via amendment if other statute is introduced which conflicts it.

Not to mention that EU membership requires adherence, because the EU signed up to it in 2010. So as a member state the HRA cannot be changed, but after/if we leave...

 

[noseall]

3 issues:
1. we are going through a rather expensive process to take back control of our laws. It is at odds with that.
2. EU legislation protects/duplicates and goes further than the HRA, so currently there is no point in changing it, that will change
3. It has precedent language protecting it from amendment via other acts (because it is the UK enactment of a treaty). This means it must be changed via amendment if other statute is introduced which conflicts it.

Not to mention that EU membership requires adherence, because the EU signed up to it in 2010. So as a member state the HRA cannot be changed, but after/if we leave...

Just generic blurb then. Like changing words from 'EU' to 'UK'.

Gotcha.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

3 issues:
1. we are going through a rather expensive process to take back control of our laws. It is at odds with that.
2. EU legislation protects/duplicates and goes further than the HRA, so currently there is no point in changing it, that will change
3. It has precedent language protecting it from amendment via other acts (because it is the UK enactment of a treaty). This means it must be changed via amendment if other statute is introduced which conflicts it.

Not to mention that EU membership requires adherence, because the EU signed up to it in 2010. So as a member state the HRA cannot be changed, but after/if we leave...

1 issue.

You still think that we have the HRA, and that we are party to the European Convention on Human Rights, because we are members of the EU.

We are not "taking back control of our laws" from the Council of Europe.

We ratified the European Convention on Human Rights in 1951.


Are you refusing to accept the truth, or are you just unable to grasp it?

 

[motorbiking]

As a member of the EU, can we repeal the Human Rights Act?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Yes.

How come you didn't know that?

 

[motorbiking]

We cannot.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Go on then - there's time for a few more laughs today - tell us why we cannot.

 

[transam]

Yes.

How come you didn't know that?

no we cannot

and that % blurb with yer posts is incorrect as well . On a par with that red bus caper

typical remoaner mis-leading and being econonmical with the actual alletere

 

[Vinty]

**** the HRA as it stands , let's have a British one created by British people.

 

[JohnD]

**** the HRA as it stands , let's have a British one created by British people.

Ha ha ha, very funny, vinty! I didn't know you had it in you!

 

[JohnD]

This is the very good sketch vinty was alluding to, pointing out the ignorance and stupidity of people who whinge about it not being British.