I would bet any money

[pickles]

always very wise and sensible, never rising to any bait .

Pickles leaves room head inflates jams in door ooh argh, deflates to normal size again

Sorry everyone that was a mischeivous wind up. I am of the male persuasion

Hilarious that Softus thought I was a girlie anyway

No, I am not a b******g judge. Pickles is a family nickname and has nothing to do with judge Pickles or anything like that

I feel a song coming on....................

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch,
I go to the lava-try.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea


I chop down trees, I wear high heels,
Suspendies and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear papa.

He's a lumberjack, and he's okaaaaaaayyy..... (BONG) etc

chorus

[email protected]: He cuts down trees, he wears high heels
Suspendies?? and a .... a Bra????
(spoken, raggedly) What's this? Wants to be a *girlie*? Oh, My!
And I thought you were so rugged! Poofter!


None of that's true either, except about buttered scones

 

[Softus]

...Sorry everyone that was a mischeivous wind up. I am of the male persuasion

You say that now...

Hilarious that Softus thought I was a girlie anyway

No, I am not a b******g judge. Pickles is a family nickname and has nothing to do with judge Pickles or anything like that

Er, I'm slightly concerned that my humour has become too dry.

 

[notb665]

But what's most obvious to me = what's age really got to do with love, kindness, true feelings?

Try telling that to:

a) his wife of 25 years who has had his kids and worked her fingers to the bone looking after him, his house and his kids while he can arse lick his way to the top.
b) the young lady when he inevitably realises he has been an idiot of the highest order and goes running home to his wife with his tail between his legs (which, let's face it, is the best place for it)

 

[notb665]

You have to go to places like Thailand to get away from that attitude

What? Like Gary Glitter did?

I'm not sure the same is true of older women and young men, most blokes will take any chance they get, which is a bit sad really. It makes you blokes look like mugs compared to us women who are choosy

As an aside (as I started the thread I assume this is allowed. Never assume, it makes an ass out of u an me. Anyway...), the reason why men are less choosy is because they have less to lose if a pregnancy results. A man can always walk away, a woman can't. That is why, ultimately, contraception is a woman's responsibility.

 

[pickles]

...Sorry everyone that was a mischeivous wind up. I am of the male persuasion

You say that now...

Hilarious that Softus thought I was a girlie anyway

No, I am not a b******g judge. Pickles is a family nickname and has nothing to do with judge Pickles or anything like that

Er, I'm slightly concerned that my humour has become too dry.

Nothing wrong with dry humour, it's as good as slipped on a bannana skin/ whoops it's in my drawers, carry on up the khyber pass. What's a wet sense of humour anyway, sounds much worse

 

[pickles]

You have to go to places like Thailand to get away from that attitude

What? Like Gary Glitter did?

Don't drag him into it or we'll be off on another sordid pedo thread. I'm talking about consenting adults here

It is different in the east, people don't view age as so important and a younger woman will find an older man attractive because of what he may have acheived in his life, rather than whether he's got a six pack (on his chest not in the fridge) Over here it's socially unacceptable for older man/ younger woman relationships to form. The mans either viewed with suspicion or as jack the lad. There are a lot of marriages like this and a regular trade in Thai brides which probably aren't as calculated as people think. The Aussies do it with Phillipino women for the same reasons

Anyway, i'm sure youre right about the couple in the park

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I'm talking about consenting adults here

But what age is that?

 

[pickles]

I'm talking about consenting adults here

But what age is that?

I don't know, what I have in my mind is middle aged men from europe and girls at least in their 20's from Thailand, ie legal relationships, not child brides or anything else that will send this thread off in that already well travelled direction

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Is legality all that matters, then?

 

[pickles]

Yes for the purposes of this thread to stop it drifting off into an area which has been done to death on this forum

No for the purpose of saying "is this right" which is a good question. I certainly don't have a problem with age gaps in relationships. The Thai bride thing is very curious. It suits the middle aged man, who can find a mate and it suits the thai bride who gets herself and her family out of poverty. What's wrong with that, everyones happy

 

[WoodYouLike]

But what's most obvious to me = what's age really got to do with love, kindness, true feelings?

Try telling that to:
a) his wife of 25 years who has had his kids and worked her fingers to the bone looking after him, his house and his kids while he can a**e lick his way to the top.
b) the young lady when he inevitably realises he has been an idiot of the highest order and goes running home to his wife with his tail between his legs (which, let's face it, is the best place for it)

Why do you presume this stereo-type character walking hand-in-hand during his lunch hour enjoying being in the company of a lovely girl? He and/or she might be single, divorced, no kids at all?

Love has no age.

 

[pickles]

But what's most obvious to me = what's age really got to do with love, kindness, true feelings?

Try telling that to:
a) his wife of 25 years who has had his kids and worked her fingers to the bone looking after him, his house and his kids while he can a**e lick his way to the top.
b) the young lady when he inevitably realises he has been an idiot of the highest order and goes running home to his wife with his tail between his legs (which, let's face it, is the best place for it)

Why do you presume this stereo-type character walking hand-in-hand during his lunch hour enjoying being in the company of a lovely girl? He and/or she might be single, divorced, no kids at all?

Love has no age.

Whoose an old softy then

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Yes for the purposes of this thread to stop it drifting off into an area which has been done to death on this forum

OK.

No for the purpose of saying "is this right" which is a good question.

So what's the answer?

When does it become "wrong" if it isn't illegal?

Why does it become "wrong"?

Who decides that it is "wrong"?

I certainly don't have a problem with age gaps in relationships.

But immediately before that statement you said that legality is not all that matters for the purpose of deciding if it is "right", so clearly you do have a problem with some age gaps.

The Thai bride thing is very curious. It suits the middle aged man, who can find a mate and it suits the thai bride who gets herself and her family out of poverty. What's wrong with that, everyones happy

What's wrong with it, potentially, is that it's a relationship artificially forged by the imbalance of financial power. Nothing new there, but does the fact that it has always happened make it right?

If a "Thai bride" publicises her availability for economic reasons, is this not a little disturbing?

 

[WoodYouLike]

Why do you presume this stereo-type character walking hand-in-hand during his lunch hour enjoying being in the company of a lovely girl? He and/or she might be single, divorced, no kids at all?

Love has no age.

Whoose an old softy then

Oh definitely

 

[pickles]

I certainly don't have a problem with age gaps in relationships.

But immediately before that statement you said that legality is not all that matters for the purpose of deciding if it is "right", so clearly you do have a problem with some age gaps.

The Thai bride thing is very curious. It suits the middle aged man, who can find a mate and it suits the thai bride who gets herself and her family out of poverty. What's wrong with that, everyones happy

What's wrong with it, potentially, is that it's a relationship artificially forged by the imbalance of financial power. Nothing new there, but does the fact that it has always happened make it right?

If a "Thai bride" publicises her availability for economic reasons, is this not a little disturbing?

I think when people are still in their teens they don't have the life experience to make these decisions, they are just to young. It's all a bit arbitrary isn't it but you have to try and draw the line somewhere

Just because a relationship is partly based on money I do not think it is automatically wrong, these marriges are based on the fact that middle aged men can't get mates because of their age which makes them undesireable in the West so they are going somewhere where they are desireable. That is not an imbalance of power it is a trade.

I don't think relationships have to be treated as being based on romantic love, if 2 people can meet for economic and personal reasons and it works out then that is ok. In lots of places the love thing is secondary, eg India where arranged marriages are common. What's wrong with working in reverse and saying we both have practical needs, lets see if we can build a relationship on that. The truth is many western marriages work that way, we just don't like to think about it in those terms in the modern world. the Victorians were quite open about not "marrying beneath themselves " so it's not that long ago in social terms that these were facts of life in the West.

People only view each other romantically when age, background and income fit the bill. there are "true love" exceptions which cut right across class, race, income etc but they are rare