A question to the supporters of abortion on demand that I have struggled with myself: would you require doctors and nurses to carry out abortions, whether early in tne term or at full term? If abortion does not involve the death of a child and has no rational religious or medical objection, what moral basis would they have for not participating? And are you aware that babies born alive after such a procedure are immediately taken for resuscitation?
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I'm pro abortion, within the laws of UK Parliament. If a woman does not want to be pregnant so be it. If the pregnancy means that her life is in danger - it's up to her to terminate. I care not what anti-abortion, pious religious men think. It's not their body or their choice.
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Wealthy Republican folk have no problem accessing abortion. It affects poor people the most.
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Many wealthy americam neo cons are in that position, and will be able to access the service even if outlawed in their state or country. But hypocrisy is the bread and butter of politicians and others.
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That's a very loaded asserion/ question. I'm not going to bite, much.
Gods and religions are inevitable inventions , in the absence of something else to provide the same psychological comfort. When they cripple someone's thinking, they're bad. At least-bad you end up with a load of Vintys, going about the place with one mental hand tied to a foot because that's what their psyche tells them they have to do, while they lecture others on how to walk. OK I'm mixing metaphors.
"Believing in" something invokes a chosen fantasy. Those often provide a mental framework on which to hang one's version of reality. I don't do "believing in". "God" is just one of a number of those structures people use. It's a bit like a football supporter demanding to know if you support United or City. If the answer is neither, - shock and awe - it must be a different team so which one?
I don't have a need of a football team to support, or an imaginary friend who somehow did all the stuff which is hard to even partly work out.
Human behaviour is entirely consistent with increasingly well described - and better evidenced - mechanisms at the heart of studies on the evolution of consciousness. Darwin was one to write about it, it's still being discovered, mechanisms worked out. Just as the evolution of the organism does not necessitate or suggest some exogenous creator, neither does that of consciousness.
Football teams and religions (or gods) are neither a necessary nor sufficient part of existence as we see and understand it.
Nobody has all the answers. Physicists can no more tell you what came before or beyond the Big Bang than the religious can tell you who made their invented god.
I like a football analogy as much as any fan - you can apply it to almost anything - but, in this case, it falls flat since i don't need to believe in United: they just are. (or, just ars*, these days.) I can say "i believe they're gonna win the league this season" but even the most evangelical supporter would suggest i think carefully about that claim.
This post (#110) in the thread How does God work? back in Feb. 2023. Nobody 'made God': He is the Alpha and Omega; there at the beginning and will be there at the end. This is a Gnostic ammendment in the New Testament which bears close scrutiny on the esoteric beliefs contained within (and without) throughout the development of Christianity.
You state that God and religion are inevitable inventions yet prefer not to extrapolate on that extraordinary statement necause it might lead you to an uncomfortable conclusion for your logical approach to the metaphysical mysteries.
This post (#110) in the thread How does God work? back in Feb. 2023. Nobody 'made God': He is the Alpha and Omega; there at the beginning and will be there at the end. This is a Gnostic ammendment in the New Testament which bears close scrutiny on the esoteric beliefs contained within (and without) throughout the development of Christianity.
You state that God and religion are inevitable inventions yet prefer not to extrapolate on that extraordinary statement necause it might lead you to an uncomfortable conclusion for your logical approach to the metaphysical mysteries.
