IP Addresses thread - strangely turns to a God thread!

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Norcon, seeing as Mike has bowed out...

Would you say Cancer and premature death is part of God's grand plan? Would you say that a child dying through an illness of no fault of its own is just and fair because God has a higher purpose?

Your a pretty looking boy Dan from looking at your profile. Almost an Errol Flynn look alike.
Those frustrated housewives must be drooling when you step in the door.

Only God could bestow chiselled good looks like that. Don't you agree?
A gift from the man above.
But don't get too attached to those pretty features because what the Lord giveth he also takes away. :mrgreen:
As already pointed out.
 
Thank you for the kind words; but they are not really pertinent to the question.

My appearances come from the scandinavian roots of the paternal side of my family.

That picture was taken on my wedding day. A Shinto ceremony. So the Lord ha nothing to do with that one.


Any chance we can get the question answered without random statements?
 
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Man made religions and moral codes which claim to be created by god really have no chance of universal success.

Quite so. There are so many different religions in the world, each with their own god who has, apparently, made their own quite disparate rules, that there will never be a universal consensus.

Not until everybody sees the light and invites atheism into their lives.
 
Not until everybody sees the light and invites atheism into their lives.
I can only reiterate my earlier point:
The way I view it is that there might or might not be a god. It is also quite a good idea for peoples to follow a common ethical and moral code based on minimum intrusion and hurt to each other. However,

1/. It isn't a good idea to force everyone to follow the same code by using force, threats, killing, bullying etc.

2/. The existence of a god has absolutely no bearing on this code and it is foolish and repeatedly historically problematic to assume that they are intrinsically linked.
 
That picture was taken on my wedding day. A Shinto ceremony. So the Lord ha nothing to do with that one.

I don't think you look particularly Japanese!

Indeed i do not.

Doesn't answer me the question though.


Anyone?

Mike - are you still there? or are you still sulking in the corner?

Would you say that everyone is avoiding answering your question, Dan? :LOL:

Dan wrote:

"Would you say Cancer and premature death is part of God's grand plan? Would you say that a child dying through an illness of no fault of its own is just and fair because God has a higher purpose?"

I'll answer it, then.

I believe the stock answer given by the religious types is that God has a reason for allowing these things to happen, but we mere mortals are not able to understand it. We, therefore, must not question His decisions, but just accept them.
 
But the other answers regularly trotted out by the believers when bad things happen that are directly caused by man ;is that God has given us free will.

So where does that leave things when our free will is overridden by God having his higher purpose?

Some people think that blood transplants are evil and it is better for their child to die than receive life giving blood. But others worshipping the same God are fine with it.

Is that free will playing a role? Shame for the child that their parent's need to honour their God and practice free will has robbed them of their chance to exercise free will. Or worship a different God with a slightly different higher purpose. Even more of a shame that those idiot parents are basing their daft ideas on books written by men. NOT God.


What about those who have a God, but with slightly different omnipotent moral compass to say PratfromLondon?

Which God is correct?

Oh poop - most western religions think there is only one God.

How does that work?
 
You are quite correct. According to the religious, the two answers are:

1. the 'free will' option; and
2. the 'too omnipotent for us to understand option, that I mentioned.

Of course, we atheists are fully aware that there is no god and that whatever happens is either a natural event or it is as a result of our actions/inactions.

God is man made.
 
You atheists have no burial ground. When you croak it its off to the gas chambers.
Your only tabernacle is the local pub or strip joint.
No head stone for relatives to look at. Just a jam jar with some dust inside.

Man is God made.

Still no logical explanation from the atheists for the little boys return.
 
What Little Boy?

Where is my answer Norcon? Several pages I haver been asking for one.

Why do you assume a burial ground is of any significance. My loved ones will care more for my memory than some arbitrary bit of ground.

I won't even be in the same country as half of my family when I croak; so what use is a grave and headstone.

In fact a couple of tabernacles might well be the best solution. One in each of my chosen home nations.

God is man made. Man has been around a lot longer than the idea of God.
 
You atheists have no burial ground. When you croak it its off to the gas chambers.
Your only tabernacle is the local pub or strip joint.
No head stone for relatives to look at. Just a jam jar with some dust inside.

Man is God made.

Still no logical explanation from the atheists for the little boys return.

I rarely go to a pub and am proud to say I've never been to a strip joint. Of course, I do realise that Christians never set foot in either of those places. :rolleyes:

As an atheist, I have the opportunity to be buried (when I'm dead) if I so wish. Perhaps not in a church yard, though, as these are all pretty much full up now. But despite this I'm probably going to be stuffed so that my wife can still see me every day! Or I might sell my body to medical research/education - if the price is right!

Has a little boy returned? From whence? Heaven? Hell? Purgatory? Hades? Valhalla?
 
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