Israel under attack

[denso13]

Where is all this from?

Their 1998 and 2017 charters.

And you think that Hamas are not able to do U turns?

Not to that extent. The 2017 document is hoping to be all things to all people, it doesn't make sense.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Their 1998 and 2017 charters.

Not to that extent. The 2017 document is hoping to be all things to all people, it doesn't make sense.

Where is this bit from:

2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras Al-Naqurah in the north to Umm Al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

Is it from the 1988 charter or the 2017 charter?
Is it from their charters, or the Israel/ US versions?

It is possible to recognise a territory but to allow others to inhabit it.

look at the US - indigenous Indian situations.
The Canada/Alaska- Inuit situation.
I'm sure there's far more examples.

 

[denso13]

Is it from the 1988 charter or the 2017 charter?

The 2017 one. I left the numbering in the quote so it can be found easily.

 

[Roy Bloom]

The 2017 one. I left the numbering in the quote so it can be found easily.

So what is your source?
You haven't said yet.

 

[denso13]

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/hamas-2017.pdf

 

[Roy Bloom]

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/hamas-2017.pdf

The Hamas Media Office, which to all acounts and purposes does not exist, and has never existed.
Until you can find some evidence that such a bona fide Media Office exists, your source is of no value whatsoever.

Oh dear!
Shorten the link to "https://irp.fas.org" see what you get:

This archived site provides a selection of official and unofficial resources on intelligence policy, structure, function, organization and operations. It was created by John Pike and Steven Aftergood. It is no longer actively maintained.​

Federation of American Scientists
1112 16th Street NW, Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036
You've been suckered with misinformation.
You need to take more care.

 

[fillyboy]

The Hamas Media Office, which to all acounts and purposes does not exist, and has never existed.
Until you can find some evidence that such a bona fide Media Office exists, your source is of no value whatsoever.

You didn't learn anything from last night did you.

 

[denso13]

your source is of no value whatsoever.

It is discussed, and quoted, at its release.

Hamas accepts Palestinian state with 1967 borders

Khaled Meshaal presents a new document in which Hamas accepts 1967 borders without recognising state of Israel.

www.aljazeera.com

What other 2017 charter would you like me to look at?

 

[fillyboy]

What other 2017 charter would you like me to look at?

Not the American one, the secret one that only Roy knows about.

 

[denso13]

Is it from the 1988 charter or the 2017 charter?

Can you point me to these?

 

[Roy Bloom]

It is discussed, and quoted, at its release.

Hamas accepts Palestinian state with 1967 borders

Khaled Meshaal presents a new document in which Hamas accepts 1967 borders without recognising state of Israel.

www.aljazeera.com

What other 2017 charter would you like me to look at?

I know it exists. But I don't accept a US, nor an Israeli version.
And before you ask, i have already presented abstracts from another version.

 

[denso13]

Is it from their charters, or the Israel/ US versions?

Where are "their" charters?

 

[denso13]

i have already presented abstracts from another version.

I've been away. Can you repost?

 

[Roy Bloom]

Can you point me to these?

No, UK has designated Hamas as a terrorist organisation, and access to their publicised material is restricted.

Rather like the ludicrous situation in the 70's when Sinn Fein were not allowed to speak on TV, so their words were over-dubbed by an actor, and in synch' with the Sinn Fein member speaking on TV.

 

[Roy Bloom]

No, UK has designated Hamas as a terrorist organisation, and access to their publicised material is restricted.

Rather like the ludicrous situation in the 70's when Sinn Fein were not allowed to speak on TV, so their woirds were over-dubbed by an actor, and in synch' with the Sinn Fein member.

Where are "their" charters?

I've been away. Can you repost?

The best you can hope for is the abstracts on Wkipedia which I have referred to and provided the links numerous times.
Otherwise the UK public are restricted to the Israel and US versions.