Israel under attack

[Notch7]

Apparently there are 50,000 pregnant woman in Gaza ???

I hadn’t heard Russell Brand had been there

 

[DiyNutJob]

It will never be resolved.

It will be resolved in the same way as before.

 

[Odds]

I think they should organise a drinking contest. Best man from each side. Winner gets to decide which half of the country they'd like to keep and the loser has to suck on a Zube. Sorted.

 

[transam]

You have problems with pregnant women, why?

Nah not at all

Just emphasis the plight of people in the Gaza

You may not agree

And you seem to have a problem with pregnant woman ?? Which is no surprise tbh

How goes yer propaganda campaign on line ? For Poo Tin ???

In my opinion he may well only have one bal l
Like Adolph Which may go to explain things ???

 

[transam]

I think they should organise a drinking contest. Best man from each side. Winner gets to decide which half of the country they'd like to keep and the loser has to suck on a Zube. Sorted.

Thought alcohol was banned ?? In Islamic culture ?

 

[denso13]

It will be resolved in the same way as before.

That worked out well.

 

[boolie]

this is no more a war than a herd of elephants vs a few ants

propaganda has naive folk convinced that hamas have any power.. they are nothing more than a rag tag group that can be swatted by israel in a millisecond.

Israel (and the west) won the war a long time ago. They went in and took the land. Morally that was unjustified... but to the victor go the spoils. Nobody with a rational mind would argue that kicking poor brown people off their land (mostly farmers) to make way for people from Europe is a just outcome. But, the same has been done many times in history. Europeans took over Australian and America. History is written by the victors and to the victor go the spoils.

Also, when the East were superpowers they did the same. In it's heyday Islamic armies marched all over the world colonizing lands. Same in South America. So the superpower at the time can pretty much do what they want, it's unjust but that's just the way it is and always has been.

Palestinians should maybe accept their fate... I'm sorry but they're just too weak. Either move out or you will be slowly eradicated by the western invaders. At the same time, the West and Israel are too concerned with keeping up appearances. You are the super power.. just go in and finish them off instead of pretending that you are acting morally or have some kind of moral high ground. Only a fool would think that the establishment of Israel was morally justified.

 

[transam]

this is no more a war than a herd of elephants vs a few ants

propaganda has naive folk convinced that hamas have any power.. they are nothing more than a rag tag group that can be swatted by israel in a millisecond.

Israel (and the west) won the war a long time ago. They went in and took the land. Morally that was unjustified... but to the victor go the spoils. Nobody with a rational mind would argue that kicking poor brown people off their land (mostly farmers) to make way for people from Europe is a just outcome. But, the same has been done many times in history. Europeans took over Australian and America. History is written by the victors and to the victor go the spoils.

Also, when the East were superpowers they did the same. In it's heyday Islamic armies marched all over the world colonizing lands. Same in South America. So the superpower at the time can pretty much do what they want, it's unjust but that's just the way it is and always has been.

Palestinians should maybe accept their fate... I'm sorry but they're just too weak. Either move out or you will be slowly eradicated by the western invaders. At the same time, the West and Israel are too concerned with keeping up appearances. You are the super power.. just go in and finish them off instead of pretending that you are acting morally or have some kind of moral high ground. Only a fool would think that the establishment of Israel was morally justified.

That’s what the Americans probably said about the Viet Cong

( a few ants etc )

And Iwo Jima WW2 ( Japanese)

 

[boolie]

Ww2 had the most deaths

 

[transam]

again a misconception. Many more Vietnamese died in the vietnam war than americans. Many many more... so how did Vietnam win? Like I say superpower calls all the shots. A bloody nose is deemed a loss.

Similar to the Afghan war - west were there for ~20 years and the narrative is that they lost because they left?? exponentially more Afghans died than Americans, etc... so exactly how did Afghanistan win?

The Americans leaving had nothing to do with Taliban/Vietcong... it was because of their own electorate. Democracy!

The body counts don't even compare when it comes to superpowers vs tinpot organisation or weak countries.

If someone enters your house, beats the sh11t out of you for ~20 years, then gets fed up and leaves... does that mean you won? what did you win exactly???

Who mentioned deaths / body count ? What has that got to do with it ?

Isreali casualties will
Be high when the ground offensive starts

If you take body count as a measure Russia would have been on the losing side in ww2
Over 20 million !!!

Over 2 million died in POW camps

 

[boolie]

That's crazy

 

[transam]

again a misconception. Many more Vietnamese died in the vietnam war than americans. Many many more... so how did Vietnam win? Like I say superpower calls all the shots. A bloody nose is deemed a loss. The common american civilan was enjoying McDonalds and Monster Trucking whilst Vietnam was on fire

Similar to the Afghan war - west were there for ~20 years and the narrative is that they lost because they left?? exponentially more Afghans died than Americans, etc... so exactly how did Afghanistan win? The war was in Afghanistan... US/UK etc were enjoying life as normal.

Superpowers decide when to invade and when to vacate. These weak countries and tinpot organisations like Hamas could never do anything like that.

The Americans leaving had nothing to do with Taliban/Vietcong... it was because of their own electorate. Democracy!

The body counts don't even compare when it comes to superpowers vs tinpot organisation or weak countries.

If someone enters your house, beats the sh11t out of you for ~20 years, then gets fed up and leaves... does that mean you won? what did you win exactly???

Imo jima

18.000 Japanese troops were bombed from land and sea for weeks

Ground invasion

7000 US marines killed
20’000 wounded

Approx 250 Japanese troops survived

US had 70000 marines present

 

[transam]

I did. The point is that the superpower controls the narrative. You do know Israel/west has the weaponry to obliterate the whole of gaza in a practical heartbeat? The reason they don't is because they want to seem as if they are moral.

Israel is part of the west. The people living there are westerners. I personally think the real reason Israel was created was so the western superpower can have a land base in the middle east. Similarly, I think that's the plan for Ukraine. Ukraine are a proxy state for the west.

I am fully aware of that but listening to you it will be a walk in the park

Well it won’t be

Urban war fare is the most difficult combat an army can get involved in
In particular when you have an enemy prepared to fight to the death

Like the japanese on imo jima

 

[ellal]

We were discussing public order, not employment disputes.

We were discussing the specific word "jihad".


That we are even discussing the word demonstrates how provocative it is.

Take that up with Sue-Ellen...

She was the one that brought it up!

 

[DiyNutJob]

These weak countries and tinpot organisations like Hamas could never do anything like that.

Hamas recently invaded israel. You seem clueless.