Israel under attack

[DiyNutJob]

Do you think they have streets in rural Russia?

I wouldn't know, never been there. Do they live in trees, caves, what?

 

[Vinty]

Hamas have a stated aim to destroy all Jews and take over all of Israel as their own

It could be they want to destroy the State of Israel, rather than destroy the Jews as a people.

 

[Vinty]

Yep piers Morgan former editor of the mirror

Remind me was it not on his shift that dodgy photos were printed depicting British troops torturing ? Mis treating prisoners ?? That turned out to be porkie pies and false ?

Bloke is a s**t imo of the highest order

Piers Morgan is the Jeremy Kyle of Journalism.

 

[Vinty]

There is no mystery. The palestinians are supported by the 1 billion Muslims. The israelis are supported by the 1 billion nato minus turkey. Unfortunately, nato is pinned down by the russians. On balance, the palestinians have the upper hand, geostrategically. That is before a 3rd front to be opened up by the 1.4 billion chinese in asia. Who is to say there won't be 4th and 5th fronts? The latin americans might want a piece of the action. The empire has p*ssed too many people off. The moment people sense weakness, they will all join in for the fun.

Some interesting points there.
People think that its just the Palestinians against the Israelis.
Its more a case of the Palestinians being the cutting edge of wider resistence by the non western world.
Same case in Ukraine, the Ukranians being the cutting edge of Nato.
In both cases, neither group could survive without outside support.

 

[denso13]

It could be they want to destroy the State of Israel, rather than destroy the Jews as a people.

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem)."

"Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep.""

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

avalon.law.yale.edu

 

[Vinty]

Pathetic strawman

Russia is no match for NATO

NATO countries have a wealth 100x Russia

Russia is a resource superpower.
All the nonsense about GDP is just hype.
That is why the Hungarians are buying more gas from Gazprom that ever.
Other countries are sneaking in Russian oil and gas by the back door.

Russia and Europe should have mutually beneficial relationship but the EU and Nato have really messed everything up.

In any showdown with China, the Americans and Europeans will need Russia on side.
Just like in the WW2.

 

[Vinty]

40 million Russians only have access to outside toilets, ie a hole in the ground

its a very very poor country

What is wrong with a hole in the ground?
Maybe they should pump their **** into the local rivers.

 

[Vinty]

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem)."

"Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep.""

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

avalon.law.yale.edu

The law of unintended consequences.

America’s Devil’s Game with Extremist Islam

A Timeline of US-Cold War Politics and the Rise of Militant Islamism

www.motherjones.com

 

[denso13]

The law of unintended consequences.

Do you think it is acceptable that Hamas want to eradicate the Jews and take over all Israeli land?

Are you implying it is America's fault?

 

[denso13]

but the EU and Nato have really messed everything up

Who was it who did the invading again?

 

[algas]

Why does everyone hate the Jews, Ancient Egyptians, Romans to name just two, must be something in it.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Who was it who did the invading again?

Russia invaded, but russia is not in ukraine territory any more. The invasion is finished for now, until the next invasion. The goal is to reach the missile systems threatening the existence of russia.

 

[denso13]

The goal is to reach the missile systems threatening the existence of russia.

They couldn't do that from Russia? Their tinpot army is worse than I thought.

but russia is not in ukraine territory any more

Says who? You and Vlad? Ok comrade.

 

[transam]

Why are the palastines/hamas so reliant on Israel ?

It is clear they hate everything about Israel and vow to kill all of them. But everything they seem to rely on is provided by Israel, food, water, fuel, electricity. Why weren't they buying all this stuff from countries they are friendly with ?

And is the Gaza strip doomed anyway? population up 200,000 in the last five years and now rising 60,000 a year. They're packed in like Londoners and its getting worse, how can they ever be a self sufficient nation? They seem to sell stone to Israel, but is that really enough to fund their existence ?

The whole thing is a bit of a mystery.

Relies on aid and hand outs

Has done since they took over

Massive amounts of aid have been channeled into acquiring weapons etc

Hamas have ripped off there own people for years

Capital of the territory is in Switzerland (Geneva)

 

[DiyNutJob]

They couldn't do that from Russia? Their tinpot army is worse than I thought.

No. Like you said they are armed with tin pots. They need to get close to the missile systems to bash them up using the pots.

Says who? You and Vlad? Ok comrade.

Says all visitors to the new russian territories. I reckon there's a special deal for the forthcoming russian territory of odessa. Get your tickets now.