It must be pure hell for them….

[Roy Bloom]

I liked Cameron and BJ, and Tony Blair, they all had charisma. I can't see much difference between Labour and conservatives any more. Conservatives like to grasp defeat from victory. They need a shake up. Starmer will be too scared of his own shadow to do anything, as long as we aren't heading for war, that approach will suit me fine. My favourite governments are weak ones or better still coalitions.

All governments are incompetent, so the less they do, the happier I am.

My vote wont count as I live in a strong conservative seat. I care much less than you pretend to. I'm more interested in getting Sadiq Khan out than worrying about Starmer getting in.

It's more the democratic system that is at fault than the politicians.
Each time we have a change of government, it's out with the experienced politicians and in with the inexperienced politicans. The very system forces them to have a difference in their mandate.
Even if we do not have an election, there's still the change of leader, or a cabinet shake-up, often due to lack of success, or another change of leader.

The whole system perpetuates a government of inexperience, and experienced politicians are side-lined.

A better system is proportional representation (of various designs) which offers a degree of longevity and continuity to experienced government.

 

[algas]

Poor old Abdul, has to walk 5 miles a day to get filthy contaminated water but can't stay on a floating hotel with a sugestion that there may be leigionairs bacteria somewhere then he should go back to his pizz poor village in stead of complaining about his treatment here.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I know, right...'why can't we all live together in peace n' harmonyyyy...'

Not sure if this relates to my other post about why can't the world just live at peace. If it does, I feel perfectly comfortably standing by both points. Yes I wish the world would genuinely live at peace nation alongside nation. Unfortunately it doesn't and never will, we're not capable of achieving that. However to me holding that utopian-esque view doesn't necessarily mean my views on migration should therefore be 'let everyone in and ensure they all have access to everything a UK citizen does from day 1.'

 

[Roy Bloom]

Poor old Abdul, has to walk 5 miles a day to get filthy contaminated water but can't stay on a floating hotel with a sugestion that there may be leigionairs bacteria somewhere then he should go back to his pizz poor village in stead of complaining about his treatment here.

Poor old Abdul may get shot, persecuted, tortured or arrested if he leaves his house for food or water.
Many asylum seekers come from families that have money. Having money, access to food or water is not the only reason for asylum seekers to leabe their country.
But you don't care, your whole attitude to the those in need of help illustrates your lack of concern for your fellow man.

The only reason that you don't have to walk 5 miles a day for dirty water to drink is because UK is a developed country. Your ancestors developed it with the stolen resources and the labour of slaves from its colonised countries.
And now it sells arms to those countries so that they can fight over what's left.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Yes I wish the world would genuinely live at peace nation alongside nation. Unfortunately it doesn't and never will, we're not capable of achieving that.

You're not speaking for me, nor for many millions more.
Although there may be a few on here that would also admit to being unable or unwilling to live in peace and hamony.

 

[Mottie]

Poor old Abdul, has to walk 5 miles a day to get filthy contaminated water but can't stay on a floating hotel with a sugestion that there may be leigionairs bacteria somewhere then he should go back to his pizz poor village in stead of complaining about his treatment here.

Perhaps we should arrange for a diseased donkey to **** in poor Abdul’s drinking water to make him feel at home.

 

[gant]

You're not speaking for me, nor for many millions more.
Although there may be a few on here that would also admit to being unable or unwilling to live in peace and hamony.

I thought you would be the epitome of what would make someone turn to violence when in your company.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I thought you would be the epitome of what would make someone turn to violence when in your company.

If you want to turn to violence, you don't need any agreement, nor condonement from me.
And when you do turn to violence don't blame it on me, nor anyone else.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Perhaps we should arrange for a diseased donkey to **** in poor Abdul’s drinking water to make him feel at home.

You're showing your tendency to be spiteful.

 

[gant]

If you want to turn to violence, you don't need any agreement, nor condonement from me.
And when you do turn to violence don't blame it on me, nor anyone else.

Are you saying that people who turn to violence need someone to blame?

 

[Roy Bloom]

Are you saying that people who turn to violence need someone to blame?

You appear to be looking for a scapegoat.

I thought you would be the epitome of what would make someone turn to violence when in your company.

It's not my fault if you turn to violence.

 

[gant]

No, can't see where I said they'd turn to violence.

 

[Roy Bloom]

No, can't see where I said they'd turn to violence.

There's none so blind.....

I thought you would be the epitome of what would make someone turn to violence when in your company.

 

[gant]

There's none so blind.....

No, read it again still doesn't say they would.
None so blind as those who cannot see eh.

 

[Roy Bloom]

No, read it again still doesn't say they would.
None so blind as those who cannot see eh.

You originally tried to blame me if you resorted to violence.
I've repeated the discussion below for your benefit.

I thought you would be the epitome of what would make someone turn to violence when in your company.

If you want to turn to violence, you don't need any agreement, nor condonement from me.
And when you do turn to violence don't blame it on me, nor anyone else.