It was god wot did it!

toffee said:
so... its deeper then than religion maybe?

its the driven desire to win... disguised by the word religion ( meaning... everyone will follow the views of the given winning dictatator)

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but that is politics using religion as an excuse
 
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I always respect people whatever they want to believe in but not happy when some religious can cause damage to the society, oh dear, I may have to go back on the drink :)
 
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seriously though don't you find that a lot of people seem to not have their own minds on things but follow the majority viewpoint, is this because they are frightened to stand out from the crowd and be publicly humiliated by others? a point in making, the readers of certain newspapers seem to follow whatever that editorial stance is regardless of looking at the topic from all angles and making their own choices and decisions they go with the editors viewpoint and having been whipped up into a frenzy by the news item will staunchly defend that editors viewpoint without thinking for a moment how brainwashed they have been.
 
people are terrified to give an opinion kendor.
If it doesnt follow the governments view.

We are being force into this... certainly in the work place... you are not allowed freedom of speech.
its a blooming joke..

I want peace... but we dont have it.
 
Well Kendor, will I stand out from the crowd if I say that I think anyone who believes in a physical God should be certified mad. How on earth can 'it' exist, except in our confused little minds.

Mark

Milk, no sugar ta.
 
I don't think it's about being brainwashed, it always going to be difficult for those who have greater intelligence and those who are of lower intelligence and lack of understanding.
 
To elaborate on what i was saying, take fashion for instance, so many are drawn into believing it is best to buy the latest designer gear to fit in with the crowd yet if you dress comfortably you ar called scruffy or worse!
What is the proper way of dressing? is clothing really what humans should be wearing? or is it society that dictates what we wear? if so then is clothing really a uniform, a uniform of society? as to not wear clothing you would be ridiculed and worse arrested, reason be that some would be offended and therefore we comply to not offend, is this rule applied to all things equally? methinks not.
 
kendor said:
To elaborate on what i was saying, take fashion for instance, ........................
What is the proper way of dressing? is clothing really what humans should be wearing? or is it society that dictates what we wear?
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Agree with a lot of you, just want to add my thoughts/feelings/how I understand things.

Marketing i.e. commercialising dictates almost everything nowadays it seems, see Kendors remark above. As one said here money/greed is the new god, who controls the 'market (by marketing) controls the masses.
toffee said:
so... its deeper then than religion maybe?
its the driven desire to win... disguised by the word religion ( meaning... everyone will follow the views of the given winning dictatator)
scary
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Agree completely with you there toffee. Remember the crusades? Was in fact not about religion but about conquering the world and other countries riches.
toffee said:
research shows you are less likely to be helped ina crowd than surrounded by only handful of people.

I may be generalising but I feel that sometimes these days people expect someone else to take responsibility all of the time.
blame culture and covering ones own back culture.
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Again, IMHO spot-on. And indeed very scary. But of course, there are always exceptions, thankfully. But does stories hardly sell newspapers or attract a large crowd of viewers. Imagine a soap only based on goodwill stories, wouldn't the masses grow very tiered very fast of it?

Might be I'm rambling, but still always think the best of people, cause I encounter so many good, friendly and willing people.

Coming back to the original thread, didn't hear to whole interview, just that bit on the news, which made me livid in thinking how easy it is as MP to hide behind a religious thought instead of excepting own responsibility (or at least admitting it)
 
kendor said:
as to not wear clothing you would be ridiculed and worse arrested, .
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Listen mate, if you had been standing naked next to me this morning watching my son's team losing at footie you would have frozen to death before anyone would have had time to ridicule you, let alone phone the police!
 
B'Liar is Evil an he knows it he is denial (not the one in Eygpt either ;)
over his sins an he will spend Eternity in Purgurtory being raped by Demons ...



what b'lar said ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4773874.stm

why wont he see the families of the dead servicemen an listen to their questions/concerns ...?
but parky-tongue-up-his-backside is a push over ... :(



on a better note I see a lot of replies of people here talking about drink an going back on it , Dont do it :(
 
Moz said:
on a better note I see a lot of replies of people here talking about drink an going back on it , Dont do it :(
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Don't worry moz, I'm still teetotal and shall not be beaten ;)

I'm more worry about you though.
 
masona
no worries ...... Im glad some here are strong enough ...

to be honest I drink far less ... you lot here may not agree/see it .. :) :)

anyway I shut up now as a """self pitying drunk""",lol
as I dont like to upset some here ..lol ;) ;)
 
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