"A Society that believes in nothing?"

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We and Hindu's wear the Turban, or Sari's etc and look very different, yet you dont mention them. So why are you focusing on Muslims?
Yes, another concession made in the name of religion; you don’t have to wear a motorcycle helmet.

Once again, religion wins over common sense and a 30 year old law to protect from serious head injury lest accusations of discrimination abound.

i actually think that law/concession is a ridiculous law and should be changed. When it comes to safety, everyone should adhere to the same safety standards. There should be no compromise on this, regardless of religious leanings.
 
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There are Muslim people (mostly downtrodden women) that have been here for decades and don't even speak the lingo. It's a disgrace.
 
i actually think that law/concession is a ridiculous law and should be changed. When it comes to safety, everyone should adhere to the same safety standards. There should be no compromise on this, regardless of religious leanings.
Glad to hear it.

You give me hope that some bad ideas and beliefs are not all cast in stone and that one day they will change, for the better ;)
 
There are Muslim people (mostly downtrodden women) that have been here for decades and don't even speak the lingo. It's a disgrace.

dont for 1 second think these women are down trodden. Most of these women are strong, family orientated women who have focused on raising their children and have therefore not had the time or energy to learn the language fluently. MOST of these women can speak enough to get by. There children have gone on to be good productive members of society, whereas many fluent english speaking mothers living on council estates have raised ferral youths, vermin, many of whom ran amock throughout the country causing mayhem during the recent riots.

You need to get your priorities in order. A woman who spent her time at home, raised her children well but doesnt speak much english has almost no affect on you personally. Yet her lack of english disgraces you? I suggest you focus your attention of those sad excuse of parents (who happen to speak perfect english) who have churned out children who are poorly educated, poorly mannered, rude, disrespectful, aggressive.
 
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First of all I've never seen anyone ride a bike in a turban.

Secondly smoking kills 100,000 every year in the UK - how about getting some sense there - as in banning tobacco?
 
Hey Naz. Give us your thoughts on arranged marriages.
 
I had an arranged marriage






We planned it weeks in advance, the ceremony, food and the hall:)

@naz some of the most righteous APPEARING are actually the dodgiest
 
It's arranged. :confused:

ok. Let me explain how an arranged marriage works. I wont ridicule you as you probably dont understand how they work, and have probably never had it explained to you. If anything, a lot of arranged marriage stories in the media are highly misleading.

An arranged marriage works like this.

Family A have a son, 20's, certain religion, and language i.e. pubjabi, or bengali. He feels its time he wants to settle down and marry.

Family B have a daughter, in her 20's, who feels she wants to settle down and marry. She is the same religion as the guy, speaks the same language. They are, potentially, a compatible match.

Family A introduce their son to the daughter of Family B. They meet, they chat, they talk, they see what they want in life, their goals, aspirations, plans for family etc. IF they like each other, they will meet a few more times, usually in private, at a resturant etc without family present to get to know each other better. Some may even date for a short time. They will then tell their parents they like each other and want to marry.

They then get married. This is an arranged marriage. They arranaged it in the sense the families arrnaged for the couple to meet. So i would say it would be more appropriate to call these marriages "introduced" marriages. Its really no different to John down the pub intrudicing his mate Barry to his wifes mate Shirly.

Now you also have an unfortune occurance of what is called a "forced" marriage, where the parents will pressure emotionally, or use threats to force a child to marry someone. This does occur but its rare, and the overwhelming majority of "arranged" marriages are not forced.
 
We are free to dress and live as we chose as long as its within the law, so again, why the issue? Sikh and Hindu's wear the Turban, or Sari's etc and look very different

I'll go along with that. I really appreciate being able to go out in the street with the wrong trousers and no hat. :D :D :D I must however add one exception; concealed faces are a BAD IDEA!

We humans are so used to the fact that we all look different (and sound different too) that we hardly notice it unless we're looking for somebody but, in times long past, faces and voices were our principal ways of telling friend from foe. A concealed face provokes an instinctive reaction - and it's not a good one! :!: :!: :!:
 
Yes Space cat; it's more about this if you ask me...

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Next... "They like to wear it of their own volition..."
 
I've just remembered that one of the women who came through my work, and very highly qualified, had taken a lower paid job with us because she was earning more money than her husband in her previous role. Can you throw some light on this please Naz?
 
I've just remembered that one of the women who came through my work, and very highly qualified, had taken a lower paid job with us because she was earning more money than her husband in her previous role. Can you throw some light on this please Naz?


You can't naz to comment and be held up for everything done by a muslim person in the history of the world

Just like I wouldn't expect you to explain every idiotic white behaviour
 
Yes Space cat; it's more about this if you ask me...

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Next... "They like to wear it of their own volition..."

pictures like that are very misleading. Whilst i'm no fan of the veil, i feel it creates more of a barrier, those that wear it are usualyl very strong women who have done so through choice. I know because of of my sisters wear it, and they certainly wont be told what to wear by any hubby or brother.

I know a couple of others who wear the veil and run very successful businesses, strangly enough one of them actually makes veils to order :LOL:

But that said, my sisters and i have often had very heated debates about the veil and its pro-s and cons. And whilst they cannot get me to come on board that its a good idea i still feel that they have the right to dress in this manner if they really want to. As long as they are prepared to show their face at airports, banks etc, then its not really a MAJOR issue.
 
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