It's now official

[Lincsbodger]

Ellal, you do realise that had Labour been in power when Argentina launched their invasion of a British Sovereignty, The Falkland Islanders would have had no choice but to accept Argentinian rule.
Labour would not have helped in any way whatsoever (unless America had asked them).
Ask any British soldier or Naval rating who took part in the Falklands War and they'll tell you , they were proud to have been a part of it and to have defended the Falklands. And probably would do so again if asked.

and had not Thacher defended the Falklands, which we legally owned for 150 years, we would not now be perfectly entitled to all the oil underneath. She wasnt daft, our Maggie, she knew what was worth hanging onto.

 

[Servotech]

Ellal, you do realise that had Labour been in power when Argentina launched their invasion of a British Sovereignty, The Falkland Islanders would have had no choice but to accept Argentinian rule.
Labour would not have helped in any way whatsoever (unless America had asked them).
Ask any British soldier or Naval rating who took part in the Falklands War and they'll tell you , they were proud to have been a part of it and to have defended the Falklands. And probably would do so again if asked.

It was the falklands war that saved Thatchers career, up until that point she was the worst and most unpopular PM the contry had ever had.

 

[Servotech]

and had not Thacher defended the Falklands, which we legally owned for 150 years, we would not now be perfectly entitled to all the oil underneath. She wasnt daft, our Maggie, she knew what was worth hanging onto.[/quote]


But the oils no good is it! Just like Thatcher!

 

[joe-90]

Without Thatcher, New labour would never have been born.

 

[Lincsbodger]

and had not Thacher defended the Falklands, which we legally owned for 150 years, we would not now be perfectly entitled to all the oil underneath. She wasnt daft, our Maggie, she knew what was worth hanging onto.

But the oils no good is it! Just like Thatcher!

lol and what sort of oil is 'no good'. All oil is good, what crap you talk..

 

[Lincsbodger]

Without Thatcher, New labour would never have been born.

Congratulations joe, that is indeed the most perceptive and truest post youve made for a week.

Blair was an admirer of Thatcher, and New Labour was but Thatcherism by another name. Blair pinched and implemented all of Thachers policies, and then went even further than Thacher dared to. Blairism is more right wing than Thacherism, but he conned the entire country into thinking it was socialism.

 

[ellal]

It was the falklands war that saved Thatchers career, up until that point she was the worst and most unpopular PM the contry had ever had.

Quite right..

An act of self-servitude that is difficult to surpass...

 

[big-all]

I appreciate the reasons why some remember Thatcher with disgust and disdain, however when you say "But what about the unions?" even ardent socialists concede that the unions must shoulder at least SOME of the blame.

I wouldn't say she always made the right choice, but I think her good ones outweigh her bad ones.

It's ironic that the last time we had a PM with balls, it was a girl.

yes some unions where out off control and needed to be "humbled" because there expectations where unrealistic
but theres a difference between humbling people and breaking people then sticking the knife in and twisting it just because you can

she was an evil woman that wanted the working class to price themselves into work regardles off how low the wages where
high unemployment suited her plans perfectly
"no such thing as society"she was pure evil

 

[wotan]

Doesnt say any such thing. Neither Churchill or Thatcher can be criticised for any of the things people like Blair and Brown can be criticised for, they were both conviction politicians, and were not in the game just to line ther eown pockets - John Major wasnt there to pocket line ,but he was indecisive.

Like I said, time will tell, and you cant claim any different.

Really?

You must have read different history books than most other people...

For example, I suppose thatcher never launched a war in order to get re-elected, did she?..

Margaret Thatcher did not go to war to win an election, she committed our troops to regain British sovereign territory, which was our countrys right.
Unlike Blair who sent several hundred service personnel to their deaths in an illegal conflict, there is no comparison, he did this just to please the Americans, went against over 60% of the population of this country who did not want the conflict.

Wotan

 

[Homesafe]

Did'nt The Baroness shag Reagan?? Or was that just lies?

Man,,, I believed she really loved him, But now something tells me it was a farce .

 

[Lincsbodger]

she was an evil woman that wanted the working class to price themselves into work regardles off how low the wages where
high unemployment suited her plans perfectly
"no such thing as society"she was pure evil

And you think Nu Labour letting 3 million immigrants in WASNT a deliberate and calculated attempt to flood the market with cheap labour, in order to depress wages, lower working conditions, and cow the unions?

You live in the usual labour fantasy world, where the truth and reality dont matter, because the Mandelson and Balls version is the one to believe.

 

[joe-90]

Hey Lincsbodger. you seem to think that everyone else lives in some kind of alternate reality - but when one person thinks that of the world - you can be pretty sure who really lives in the alternative reality.

 

[skitzee2k]

Hey Lincsbodger. you seem to think that everyone else lives in some kind of alternate reality - but when one person thinks that of the world - you can be pretty sure who really lives in the alternative reality.

...but he is right.

If someone, in this case lincs, points out fact that what people are saying is not based in reality, just because most people believe the delusion, it does not mean lincs is wrong.

 

[big-all]

she was an evil woman that wanted the working class to price themselves into work regardles off how low the wages where
high unemployment suited her plans perfectly
"no such thing as society"she was pure evil

And you think Nu Labour letting 3 million immigrants in WASNT a deliberate and calculated attempt to flood the market with cheap labour, in order to depress wages, lower working conditions, and cow the unions?

You live in the usual labour fantasy world, where the truth and reality dont matter, because the Mandelson and Balls version is the one to believe.

may i respectfully suggest that i was talking about a different subject and spuriously connecting with another that i haven't passed an opinion on fully invalidates your point

 

[Lincsbodger]

Hey Lincsbodger. you seem to think that everyone else lives in some kind of alternate reality - but when one person thinks that of the world - you can be pretty sure who really lives in the alternative reality.

No joe, only you do. you post about events and occurrences and we read your posts and think 'wtf, thats not what i saw on the news '. According to you, cameron lost, made a complete hash of it, and failed to beat brown. Thats been the theme of your posts for about a week, it bears no resemblance to whats happened in the real world, in reality, and even the labour party accept it, is that cameron wiped them out, took over 100 seats and 2 million votes off them, and has successfully made Prime Minister.

You came up with the spurious 'cameron only got 3% more votes than someone or other', and its utter nonsense. Cameron increased his share of the vote by 2 million, which was 10 percent of the total voters adn 20 percent of the Tory vote, he did spectacularly well considering the mountain he had to climb.You can only arrive at 3% if you include the 15 million people who didnt vote and the 18 million people too young to vote, which obviously makes utter nonsense of the 3% claim. The vast majority of your last weeks posts have been utter fantasy devoid of any recognition of what actually happened in real life.