It's OK to kill journalists

[fillyboy]

Hence why they sit on the fence. It makes perfect sense to trade with Israel as you say most of the wealthy states don't like Iran. But if Israel were on its knees! What would think the Arab states would do?

Kick them in the nuts, but as we both know, the Israelis, with or without the US, are remarkably resilient.

 

[ellal]

The solution isn't out there as long as there are Iranian funded terror groups.

As opposed to a western funded state of Israel that commits terrorist acts?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Care to define your idea of 'good'?

I'm pulling at your leg. My right is your left. That's life.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Kick them in the nuts, but as we both know, the Israelis, with or without the US, are remarkably resilient.

Do you remember when Iran was sending scuds into Israel.

The US had to calm the situation as Israel would have tonnked Iran, and then it really would have went off.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

I'm pulling at your leg. My right is your left. That's life.

As opposed to a western funded state of Israel that commits terrorist acts?

Israel defends

 

[JohnD]

Israel defends

Self defence

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[JohnD]

human shields

It's interesting that you raise the point of "human shields"

Do you consider a person who does that to be immoral, or criminal?

Wicked? Evil? Committing a war crime?

Or just a coward?

Come on, tell us what you think?

 

[ellal]

Do you remember when Iran was sending scuds into Israel.

Nope...

I do recall Iraq sending a few over though...

Best to get your facts correct, although I guess all Arabs look alike to you

 

[Vinty]

Do you remember when Iran was sending scuds into Israel

I think it was Saddam Hussein who was behind the Scuds.
He was also sending money to families of dead suicide bombers.
Thats some of the reasons Iraq was selected for a dose of regime change by the Americans.

 

[securespark]

If they had wanted him dead, he would be

They missed.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Self defence

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You have every right to defend your arse.

 

[Roy Bloom]

It's very obvious to anyone with half a brain that Hamas did not care about what Isreal would do to retaliate.

It's difficult to predict genocidal policies.

Perhaps they might have considered the fate of their people.

It is the fate of the Palestinians imprisoned without trial, especially the women and children, in Israel, and the continued killing of civilains and the taking of their land, that motivated the taking of Israeli hostages.
The conflcit did not begin on 7 October, much as genocidal supporters try to argue it did.

Its also fairly obvious that some want to blame jews for everything that is happening in Gaza and the Red Sea,

Israel is the miliotary occupier of Gaa and the west Bank. Who else is responsible for killing of Palestinians, the eviction from their land, the imprisoning and torture?

and some are happy to call such hatred "free speech"

That is the US law, much as we might disagree with it, we hav eno vote in US law making.

and take no action to protect those people who are jews

I am confident that if and when speech turns to conduct, the authorities will act accordingly.
Do you not have the same confidence?

and have nothing to do with the Gaza war

What about the Jews who put pressure on US politicians to continue support for genocide?
Are they equally responsible?

and Red Sea shipping attacks

The Red Sea atacks by Houthis are a demonstration of support for Palestinians suffering genocide at ehhands of Israel.
Do you suppor genocide by Israel? Your comments suggests you do.

I see no fake outrage over liz Magill resignation - is it because she is white?

So is Sally Kornbluth
All three have argued the same argument over free speech, as legislated in US law, and have all three have ben pressurised to resign.
As fas as I am aware, only Ms Gay received horrific racist abusive pressure to resign, along with unsupported attacks on her academic record. The pressure on the other two has been limited to political pressure.

 

[Roy Bloom]

The October attacks were truly barbaric

More so, or less so, than the persistent and continuous attacks on Palestinian civilians in Gaza and the West Bank for decades?
Killing, evicitng them from their land, imprisoning them without trial, torturing them, targetting their families, supporting Israeli civilians killing them.
The conflict did not begin on 7 October, mush as you like to dismiss earlier Israeli inhumanity.

and apparently if the conspiracy theorists are correct, it was all an accident.

The Palestinians were provoked by decades of inhumane treatment by the Israelis. Any intelligence service throughout theworld would have seen it coming. And Mossad are supposed to b the best. They either knew and alllowed it to happen, in which case it truly was an excuse to unleash genocide.Or they didn't know, so are ridiculously incapable.

They were only supposed to kidnap people.

Military are fair targets, (nearly 400 of the total), as would be civilians who take up arms.
Israel has been freely donating arms to Israeli civilians.

Unfortunately 1,200 people were killed and Isreal's leadership didn't see it coming.

The conflict did not start on 7 October, much as you ike to argue it did.

Gaza was created by Israel in 1948, as a refugee camp to contain Palestinians displaced in the Nakba. Since 2007, Israel has kept Gaza under an illegal military siege, counting calories allowed in and permitting the water in Gaza to become undrinkable, creating a humanitarian crises widely condemned by the international community.
In November 2022, the most right-wing government in Israeli history came to power, led by Benjamin Netanyahu and including far-right extremist politicians in its coalition.

Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians has always been Israeli policy. Over the past year, under the leadership of the most right-wing government in Israeli history, the Israeli military and settlers have led an escalated campaign of displacement, dispossession, and violent repression against Palestinians across Israel and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

You can continue reading the number of Palestinians killed, displaced, tortured, etc here:

Countdown to genocide: the year before October 7 - JVP

Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians has always been Israeli policy. Here, we present a brief history of the past year.

www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org

Words and phrases crop up regularly in the article, like:
the most far-right government in Israeli history.
mobs of armed Israeli settlers
try to wipe Palestinians off of the map.
4,500 new illegal settlements on Palestinian land
five days of pogrom attacks

and more.

 

[Roy Bloom]

However his car was fired on and his driver was killed he had to take cover along with his colleague

His other colleague was also killed.

The tank crew were afraid / terrified conscripts etc etc the general said

So they take great care to ensure IDF do not kill civilians by manning tanks with 'afraid / terrified conscripts'?

 

[Roy Bloom]

Gaza is a small place and journalists are free to leave afaik

No-one, other than IDF, are free to leave or enter Gaza.