I am not keen to defend Joe but what i am keen to defend is Joes right to an opinion even if others my self included think what he says is rubbish.There are not many freedoms left in this country of ours but freedom of speech has tobe tolerated.I have said before some one wrote of someone( Sir i hate every thing you say but i will fight to the death your right to say it)
Attributed to some French geezer called Votaire.
often quoted and quite correct
i have used it myself when i thought someone was getting a hard time.
while ive no doubt you mean it oompah, look at his post on this thread
... all i said is..
that alone would make me cringe if i were defending him.
he simply cannot see how embarrassing some of his statements are.
anyway
enough for me
ooh one last thing
working on joes logic, if someone googled him and found that everyone calls him a ****! would that mean everybody was right..