joe90 & any other holocaust deniers

So who can tell me where the 11 million went? That's 6 million Jews and 5 million Gypsies etc.

That's a number of people greater than the entire population of Sweden.

Where did they all go - without a trace?

It's more than the entire population of London, Birmingham, Bristol combined.

Where did they all go?

Who can tell me?
 
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joe-90 said:
What people need to ask themselves is this: Where did you get the information from that led you to believe in the holocaust? I bet you don't know. Like me, you were brought up to believe in it - totally without any proof whatsoever. Go on - ask yourself.
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Ok then, if that is the case how do we know what is true and what is not true? Because we all learn on what we hear and what we are told, so do we only believe in what we see for ourselves !
 
We allow reputable scientists and archaeologists to uncover the truth. We then believe that truth whatever that truth is. As things stand, anyone that questions the holocaust (only the Jewish one mind, not the 5 million Gypsies and homosexuals) is put in prison. How can someone be sent to prison for questioning history? The truth doesn't fear investigation; in fact it welcomes it as it shows the world that it is in fact the truth. Whoever controls the present controls the past. (Orwell). History is written by the victors (Churchill).
 
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They've not been appointed yet. Time Team will do - but they'd be imprisoned for doing so. Do you agree with that Nosey?
 
It has already been done Joey. Do a bit of (impartial) research.

Oh, and don't start your research query off with the words "anti-Semitic, holocaust denial". :LOL:
 
Would you like to show me the research please? And who carried it out? Your problem is that you believe but don't even know why you believe. You've been brainwashed like a Catholic child is brainwashed. No-one can carry out an investigation without going to prison. Do you agree with that policy nosey? Do you think it is a good thing to imprison those that question history?
 
joe-90 said:
Would you like to show me the research please? And who carried it out?
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The camps themselves--forensic tests have now been conducted demonstrating the homicidal use of both the gas chambers and the crematoria for the express purpose of exterminating large numbers of prisoners (Pressac, 1989; Pressac and Van Pelt, 1994).
 
Joe

This is a list of the main concentration camps and the number of known sub camps. I have copied it from

http://www.jewishgen.org/forgottencamps/General/ListeEng.html

which you may want to discredit.

I believe it to be reasonable accurate several of the entries match data from other sources ( German records ) .

I visited Buchenwald in 1967 and again in 1998 and the Nazi's own official list of sub camps in the camps records was over 150 ( from my memory ). I also had friends, now passed on, who survived the genocide because they had skills the Nazi research scientists needed.

The main camps were selection centres and every day many thousands who were considered unsuitable for work were killed within hours of arrival. Those fit to work were eventually sent to subcamps for use as slave labour. Most of these people died in the sub camps and thus are not recorded in the death counts of the main camps. Many are not even recorded in the records of the sub camps other than by implication in the requests to send replacements from the main camp.

Germany:
Bergen-Belsen (probably 2 sub-camps but location is unknown)
Börgermoor (no sub-camp known)
Buchenwald ( 174 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Dachau (123 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Dieburg (no sub-camp known)
Esterwegen (1 sub-camp)
Flossenburg (94 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Gundelsheim (no sub-camp known)
Neuengamme (96 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Papenburg (no sub-camp known)
Ravensbruck (31 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Sachsenhausen (44 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Sachsenburg (no sub-camp known)
Austria:
Mauthausen (49 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Belgium:
Breendonck (no sub-camp known - click here for more information about this camp)
Czechoslovakia:
Theresienstadt (9 sub-camps)
Estonia:
Vivara
Finland:
Kangasjarvi
Koveri
France:
Argeles
Aurigny
Brens
Drancy (click here for more information about this camp)
Gurs
Les Milles
Le Vernet
Natzweiler-Struthof (70 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Noé
Récébédou
Rieucros
Rivesaltes
Suresnes
Thill
for these camps, no sub-camp known
Work camps created by the Government of Vichy in Maroco and Algeria. Following the Atlas of the Holocaust by Martin Gilbert, thousands of jews were sent to these camps by the French pro-nazi government of Petain:

Abadla
Ain el Ourak
Bechar
Berguent
Bogari
Bouarfa
Djelfa
Kenadsa
Meridja
Missour
Tendrara
Holland:
Amersfoort (click here for more information about this camp)
Ommen (click here for more information about this camp)
Vught (12 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Westerbork (transit camp - click here for more information about this camp)
Italy:
Bolzano
Fossoli
Risiera di San Sabba (no sub-camp known)
Lattvia
Riga
Riga-Kaiserwald
Dundaga
Eleje-Meitenes
Jungfernhof
Lenta
Spilwe
Lithuania
Kaunas
Aleksotaskowno
Palemonas
Pravieniskès
Volary
Norway:
Baerum
Berg
Bredtvet
Falstadt
Tromsdalen
Ulven
Poland:
Auschwitz/Birkenau - Oswiecim-Brzezinka (extermination camp - 51 sub-camps)
Belzec (extermination camp - 1 sub-camp)
Bierznow
Biesiadka
Dzierzazna & Litzmannstadt (These two camps were "Jugenverwahrlage", children camps. Hundreds of children and teenagers considered as not good enough to be "Germanized" were transfered to these places - see our article about the Lebensborn - and later sent to the extermination canters)
Gross-Rosen - Rogoznica (77 sub-camps)
Huta-Komarowska
Janowska
Krakow
Kulmhof - Chelmno (extermination camp - no sub-camp known - click here for more information about this camp)
Lublin (prison - no sub-camp known)
Lwow (Lemberg)
Czwartaki
Lemberg
Majdanek (extermination camp - 3 sub-camps)
Mielec
Pawiak (prison - no sub-camp known)
Plaszow (work camp but became later sub-camp of Majdanek)
Poniatowa
Pustkow (work camp - no sub-camp known)
Radogosz (prison - no sub-camp known)
Radom
Schmolz
Schokken
Sobibor (extermination camp - no sub-camp known - click here for more information about this camp)
Stutthof - Sztutowo (40 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Treblinka (extermination camp - no sub-camp known - click here for more information about this camp)
Wieliczka
Zabiwoko (work camp - no sub-camp known)
Zakopane
Russia: (The real number of concentration and extermination camps established in occupied Soviet Union by the Nazies is unknown. The following list contains the name of the major camps. Some of these camps were under Romanian control; e.g. Akmétchetka or Bogdanovka where 54,000 were executed between December 21th and December 31th, 1941)
Akmétchetka
Balanowka
Bar
Bisjumujsje
Bogdanovka
"Citadelle" (The real name of this camp is unknown. The camp was located near Lvov. Thousands of Russian POWs were killed in this camp)
Czwartaki
Daugavpils
Domanievka
Edineti
Kielbasin (or Kelbassino)
Khorol
Klooga
Lemberg
Mezjapark
Ponary
Rawa-Russkaja
Salapils
Strazdumujsje
Yanowski
Vertugen
(for all these camps, no sub-camp known).
Yougoslavia:
Banjica
Brocice
Chabatz
Danica
Dakovo
Gornja reka
Gradiska
Jadovno
Jasenovac
Jastrebarsko
Kragujevac
Krapje
Kruscica
Lepoglava
Loborgrad
Sajmite
Sisak
Slano
Slavonska-Pozega
Stara-Gradiska
Tasmajdan
Zemun
(for all these camps, no sub-camp known).
 
Joe

To make it easy for you check out a few facts

Lager Norderney
Lager Borkum
Lager Sylt
Lager Helgoland

They are sub camps of the Neuengamme KZ at Hamburg

Those four sub camps were on Alderney in the Channel Islands and historians on the Islands have records in English that you can access and read and lose nothing in translation.
 
Bernard. Where are the bodies of the 11 million?

Do you agree that anyone that questions history should be imprisoned?

Why wasn't Anne Frank put to death on arrival at Auschwitz?

Why was her father treated at the Auschwitz hospital for injuries to his hand? Was it a death camp or wasn't it?

Why did it exhibit a plaque from 1945 to 1989 saying that 4.1 million had perished there if it wasn't true?

Why are there no reconnaissance photos of the crematoria chimneys smoking?

Why did the gas chamber have no airtight doors?

Why were the so-called Zyclon B ducks added by the Russians AFTER the war?

Why do none of the gas chambers have the blue walls associated with cyanide gas?

Why were there no vent chimneys to safely disperse the gas?

You simply don't want to know do you? You believe what you want to believe, and that's a fact.
 
Blah, blah blah. All refuted. All rebuffed.

Try a different song-sheet Joey, the one you are trumpeting is old hat.
 
You answer the questions then. (he won't)

You believe because you've been taught to believe. You don't even know why you believe or where the information came from.

Tell me nosey - just where did 11 million people go to when they disappeared without a trace. If you can't answer that - then you've been duped. Totally and completely.
 
joe-90 said:
You answer the questions then. (he won't)

You believe because you've been taught to believe. You don't even know why you believe or where the information came from.

Tell me nosey - just where did 11 million people go to when they disappeared without a trace. If you can't answer that - then you've been duped. Totally and completely.
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Probably the same place the other 25 million went during WWII. :rolleyes:
 
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